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Old May 27, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Is Ford gonna drop the 3.5l EcoBoost in the next Stang... if so, what the hell are they gonna call the trim for it? SVO-R?
No plans of that as far as any magazine or publication has written yet ...
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Old May 27, 2013 | 10:49 PM
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No ford wouldn't make the base model have a turbo. Haven't anyone realized that every v6 of the same generation needs FI to be slightly faster than a stock GT? If it was a turbo 6 then people would just by the v6 and raise the boost to equal or surpass the v8 with less money spent, and I don't think ford is going to be that nice to people and let the base model cut into the GT's sales.
Idk about evey v6 gen
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Old May 28, 2013 | 06:09 AM
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I doubt they will do that because if you tune it you'll get around the GT's hp an torque ratings if not more. There never going to make it so the base model can't match the performance model with just a tune. Haven't anyone realized every v6 had to get fI to be slightly faster than the stock GT of it's generation?
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Idk about evey v6 gen
Well I know from doing research there aren't any v6 mustangs from the 80's to present time that can run as fast as a GT of the same gen with just bolt ons.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Five.Point.Oh
Is Ford gonna drop the 3.5l EcoBoost in the next Stang...
If they did it would be a premium engine option probably a little more than the V8 engine - the upsell would be same power or power to weight ratio, better handling, better economy.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Five.Point.Oh
Is Ford gonna drop the 3.5l EcoBoost in the next Stang... if so, what the hell are they gonna call the trim for it? SVO-R?
No. That is a wild rumor that started when the 5.0 was being developed and it's never amounted to anything. People need to let it go.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost

No. That is a wild rumor that started when the 5.0 was being developed and it's never amounted to anything. People need to let it go.
I hardly even remember hearin that rumor
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Old May 29, 2013 | 05:47 AM
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We will all know 4/17/14!!!
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Old May 29, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Well GM has thrown out the gauntlet with its new LT1 455 hp - 60 ft/lbs in the Corvette and 460 hp - 465 ft/lbs with dual mode exhaust.

I suppose the LT1 will be fitted to the Camaro as soon as possible with essentially the same power ratings (perhaps within 5 since the current vette puts out 430 compared to 425).

Good time to be a muscle fan with all this HP getting thrown around.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Well GM has thrown out the gauntlet with its new LT1 455 hp - 60 ft/lbs in the Corvette and 460 hp - 465 ft/lbs with dual mode exhaust.

I suppose the LT1 will be fitted to the Camaro as soon as possible with essentially the same power ratings (perhaps within 5 since the current vette puts out 430 compared to 425).

Good time to be a muscle fan with all this HP getting thrown around.
It's a 5.0 with a good tune, pretty underwhelming for a vette IMO.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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455-460 hp out of a 6.2 V8 for the new Vette ... the 12-13 Boss302 was officially listed at 444hp out of a 5.0 V8 ...

Some amazing times we live in ... when the Viper came out it offered 400 hp out of an 8-liter V10 and that was considered hugely powerful at the time ... now 400+ hp cars are so commonplace that unless it's 500+ hp we're not really impressed ... wow!
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Old May 29, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bob

If they did it would be a premium engine option probably a little more than the V8 engine - the upsell would be same power or power to weight ratio, better handling, better economy.
3.5 Ecoboost engine weighs like 10lbs less than the 5.0 after you add in all the turbos and piping. Would need 350-400 out of an Ecoboost 4 to achieve a better power to weight and weight balance for handling. 450 in the current Camaro would but its acceleration around the current GT no big deal
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Old May 30, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by conv_stang
3.5 Ecoboost engine weighs like 10lbs less than the 5.0 after you add in all the turbos and piping. Would need 350-400 out of an Ecoboost 4 to achieve a better power to weight and weight balance for handling.
10 pounds less and sits father back behind the front axle which all contribute to a better handling car, but yeah I see with the P/W I hadn't realized the EB6 was so **** heavy for its size.
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Old May 30, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by steven46746
It's a 5.0 with a good tune, pretty underwhelming for a vette IMO.
I'd call it a pretty good improvement for the base car (as if the majority of vette sales are Z06 and ZR1s). 455hp plus the 7 speed transmission should make it a good performer.

And while the 5.0 can make good power with a tune, this is 455hp that GM backs with a full warranty and gets bragging rights in media.

Those things might not matter to somebody who is going to mod their engine anyway but its nice for the fans and good advertisement when your car can run neck and neck with the completion.
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Old May 30, 2013 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bob

I'd call it a pretty good improvement for the base car (as if the majority of vette sales are Z06 and ZR1s). 455hp plus the 7 speed transmission should make it a good performer.

And while the 5.0 can make good power with a tune, this is 455hp that GM backs with a full warranty and gets bragging rights in media.

Those things might not matter to somebody who is going to mod their engine anyway but its nice for the fans and good advertisement when your car can run neck and neck with the completion.
Who's to say said 5.0 tune couldn't be be warranted by ford? Everyone makes the after market tunes sound pretty safe.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 08:44 AM
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No plans of that as far as any magazine or publication has written yet ...
That's not quite accurate. It has been written about. Now whether you want to believe them is another story. But there are people pretty confident that an ecoboost Mustang will be available in the US.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/futur...r-in-us-market

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2015-mus...l-17-2014.html

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...ROIT/120109853

http://www.egmcartech.com/2013/03/12...oth-eu-and-us/

http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-co...-in-the-works/

Granted a few of those links are older, but it seems a recurring theme that the Mustang will get ecoboost and the recent ones are saying it will be here in the US.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AWmustang
That's not quite accurate. It has been written about. Now whether you want to believe them is another story. But there are people pretty confident that an ecoboost Mustang will be available in the US.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/futur...r-in-us-market

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2015-mus...l-17-2014.html

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...ROIT/120109853

http://www.egmcartech.com/2013/03/12...oth-eu-and-us/

http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-co...-in-the-works/

Granted a few of those links are older, but it seems a recurring theme that the Mustang will get ecoboost and the recent ones are saying it will be here in the US.



Lol, except for the question was regarding the V6 ecoboost found in the SHO.

We already know about an ecoboost 4 cylinder.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bob

I'd call it a pretty good improvement for the base car (as if the majority of vette sales are Z06 and ZR1s). 455hp plus the 7 speed transmission should make it a good performer.

And while the 5.0 can make good power with a tune, this is 455hp that GM backs with a full warranty and gets bragging rights in media.

Those things might not matter to somebody who is going to mod their engine anyway but its nice for the fans and good advertisement when your car can run neck and neck with the completion.
They always forget the torque. 460Lb/ft. Well played.
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Automagically
They always forget the torque. 460Lb/ft. Well played.
Yep nearly the same output as the LS7 which translates into some nice power under the curve.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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They can throw all the HP or torque they want at the cars. If cars keep getting heavier and heavier each year we will end up with 800hp in a 3 ton "Pony" car that's marginally faster than a late 80's early 90's car.
Weight will kill performance every time. Perfect example is the Dodge Charger at 4000+lbs, a friend of mine has one and one day I dusted off my '87 Fox and stayed right next to him from a dead stop. It was even worse when I did the same thing with my '91 vette, left him like he was standing still and up to 100 mph just smoked him.

Whats wrong with a V-6? There was a cars wayy back when thay you could buy and make very minor mods too and have a 10 sec car. Anyone remember the late 80's Grand National? Noone wanted a peice of that thing on the road. In its time it accellerated like a frikken rocket and it was a V-6. If done right Ford could make a V-6 that could propel a light body Mustang sayy 2900 lbs into the 12's NA and boosted into the 10's.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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They can throw all the HP or torque they want at the cars. If cars keep getting heavier and heavier each year we will end up with 800hp in a 3 ton "Pony" car that's marginally faster than a late 80's early 90's car.
Weight will kill performance every time. Perfect example is the Dodge Charger at 4000+lbs, a friend of mine has one and one day I dusted off my '87 Fox and stayed right next to him from a dead stop. It was even worse when I did the same thing with my '91 vette, left him like he was standing still and up to 100 mph just smoked him.

Whats wrong with a V-6? There was a cars wayy back when thay you could buy and make very minor mods too and have a 10 sec car. Anyone remember the late 80's Grand National? Noone wanted a peice of that thing on the road. In its time it accellerated like a frikken rocket and it was a V-6. If done right Ford could make a V-6 that could propel a light body Mustang sayy 2900 lbs into the 12's NA and boosted into the 10's.
Those twin turbos on that Grand National may have been the secret to its success
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