steven46746

I've seen countless 5.0's make 400+ wheel with a good dyno tune(not canned), 418 wheel is about 475 motor, we on the same page?

cinque35

all they really need is a base 300+hp ecoboost 4 & GT 5.0 V8.
don't see the point of a v6, they did away with it back in '87
and it's already dropped from the fusion & escape

Getportfolio

I love it. The day has come where four is better than six. Eight is just having the cake and eating it too.

MustangDizzle

35% more power vs 19% more power.

That's a big difference.

Besides, I can promise you right now that you are not going to see an NA V6 make 400 hp any time soon in production form. They'd have to up compression, redesign the Valvetrain and rotating assembly for 8000 rpm, etc. to pull that kind of hp from a V6. The motor itself literally would increase in cost by over 100% to be able to reliably support that kind of power for warranty expectations. Basically it would be a 6 Cylinder version of a ferrari V8. Not cost efficient. Also, mpg would drop dramatically.

You know what's way easier? Boost.

MustangDizzle

The Coyote does have 475 hp potential with Direct Injection, though I highly doubt they'll tune it nearly that aggressive from the factory. I never thought the 2015 would get that high of a HP figure in the GT. I really think 450hp is close to what we are going to get. With DI, 450 hp and 28 mpg is about what we will see. Depending on how much weight reduction, we may see 29 mpg in the GT.

With that, if we assume 200 lbs lighter and 450 hp, we will get a really fast car for cheap. Just 15 years ago, you had to shell out serious cash for that type of performance. The Viper was a "budget exotic" at the time and the 2015 may surpass it's performance for 1/3 the price. The Ferrari 360 Modena was the next step up, and the 2015 may match that car for 1/6 the cost.

The C7 will get 30+ mpg, but it is much more aerodynamic and significantly lighter and also utilizes cylinder deactivation. It's also 6.2 liters vs. 5.0, so who knows what mpg is practical to expect. I'm guessing 28mpg.


Either way, I'm modding that thing up. I currently drive a 2007 GT with 480whp (supercharged) and I've beat a brand new porsche 911 Carrera S in a drag race from a 10 mph roll up to 90, and those things are no slouch.

You can guarantee I will be buying a 2015 GT and supercharging it. 600whp daily driver in a 2015 is going to be sweet. Can't wait!

cinque35

lol didn’t quite mean it that way but that is funny..

SONICBOOST

Agreed!! and so will Ford...

GreenCars

compare the 2005 to the 2011+ on both V8 and V6, The new base V6 now comes with dual exhaust etc.. Everyone back in the day said Ford would not put dual exhaust on a v6 because it was a GT only feature. I wouldn't dout that Ford would change HP.

Krohn

What I'm wondering is, like how Ford changed the engine from the 2010- 2011... even though I know they wont change the engine itself from 2015 to 2016... would they do anything else dramatic then? making brembos in all four corners standard? clear roof standard? dual stage exhaust? turbo?

So basically, should I want the 2015 or '16? or should I just say screw it, buy a loaded GT now with all the recaro and track goodies and then just readdress the situation in a few years?

lexi2013

Would make more sense to have a turbo 4 making 350hp than a v6. A 4 cylinder turbo would get better gas mileage than a v6 would. I think having a turbo car as the base model would be great to be able to just tune a base model and get 50-60 more hp instead out like 10-15. Boost rules!

Rando

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lexi2013

If your talking about going from a GT to a base model hell no. Your better off either 1. Waiting to see what happens and get something comparable to what you have ie. a another GT just newer or 2. Just getting a fully loaded GT. either way I doubt the next GT will have any forced induction.

Gabe

I knew about the future smaller/lighter 2015 car coming when I ordered my 2013.

I wanted a known platform with a great/known engine and rear-end.

Ford hasn't had the best success with independent rear diffs ... 2002+ Explorers/Mountaineers are whining after 50-75k miles, 03-04 Cobra IRS is known for its fragile-ness, and time will tell how the current crop of IRS suv's will do with their IRS's

steven46746

Rumor has it, ford will scrap the v8. 4 cylinder turbo base model and v6 for the GT. 275 hp and 350 hp respectfully. Both will have direct injection offering 38 mpg in the base and 33 in GT trim.

y5e06

I would be certainly surprised to see that. They have way too much invested in the Coyote for a 4-yr Mustang only run. Too many V8 nuts no matter how powerful 6/4-turbo would be.
a V6 base, perhaps hipo 4cyl turbo + V8 in the lineup. V8 could be a US only market item, while the turbo-something is more interesting to the global market.
If there are no significant changes to the emissions requirements over the next 2-5 years (i haven't paid attention) then there is no reason to drop the Coyote.

this is exactly the reasoning I used when buying mine too (and the discounts).
However, I won't be adverse to a 250lb-lighter 420hp 2016...

MustangDizzle

A crappy rumor at that, or you're trolling.

The V8 is going nowhere. 100% Guarantee.

People need to quit saying this.

We've already seen test mules with a V8!!

GT98

I doubt that very much...for crying out loud the Ecoboost 3.5 V6 only makes 365HP with twin turbos on it....its detuned in AWD and truck applications.

The V8 is "free" since the development costs are shared with the F-series...

lexi2013

Yeah no way a v6 will be a GT model. Though to be honest don't know why they made a new 3.7 when they had the 4 cylinder turbo they could have used from the ford focus which I believe made as much or more power.

steven46746

Almost forget, neither model will have dual exhaust.

Getportfolio

Rumour has it that this thread is starting to seem pointless.