Rumoured power outputs for '15
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Lol throw out the gas mileage once you add forced induction. Though why limit yourself to bolt ons and FI when you could get a GT. I think if you have the money for FI you can afford the insurance for a GT. FI will cost you around 5k and then you have the tune. I don't I just don't see buying a v6 for power or buying it because it makes the same power as the last gen GT minus the torque. That's not really a good reason. That's like saying you'd rather have a 350z instead of a GT because in stock form the Z is slightly faster, but we all know who would win the hp and torque race once mods start happening. I narrowed it down the only really variables should be price, gas mileage (though really I get all of 2 mpg less then the v6 around town), and insurence if you can't have your parent listed as the primary driver. Other than that look at what you want to do to it. If you want power get he GT, if your going to do nothing but bolt ons get the v6 (though I'd argue this one because the GT will gain more in the end as well). I just don't know why people buy the v6 for "speed" just buy it to drive if you want speed and want to heavily modify it should have bought the GT. on the end though the v6 is great in it's own right but still can't really compare to the 3v 4.6 after mods are done to both. And bleh /rant I just wish it was replaced with a turbo 4 that would reduce weight and add more modability that's my only complaint about the v6 is modability.
Either way theres different drivers that are always on the hunt for their car. Some are v8 or nothing, others are 4 and no more. Im just glad that Ford is really doing alot to keep us satisfied with the current mustang and theyre improving the field as they do it.
This is what id like to see powerwise though in the 15MY
Turbo 4 (SVO) - 250-300hp/300lbft
V6 - 350/300-320lbft
V8 n/a 450-475hp/ 420-430lbft
V8 supercharged - 2000000000000hp
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Yea i hear ya on the modability. As for everything else i agree totally but for me i couldnt afford the new 5.0 but i wanted somethin quick but better mpg than my 02 gt. The new v6 had everything i needed. Plus theres enough room in the engine bay to toss a 427 in if someone really wants to go crazy.
Either way theres different drivers that are always on the hunt for their car. Some are v8 or nothing, others are 4 and no more. Im just glad that Ford is really doing alot to keep us satisfied with the current mustang and theyre improving the field as they do it.
This is what id like to see powerwise though in the 15MY
Turbo 4 (SVO) - 250-300hp/300lbft
V6 - 350/300-320lbft
V8 n/a 450-475hp/ 420-430lbft
V8 supercharged - 2000000000000hp
Turbo 4- 300-325hp (plus less weight from having a smaller engine and the 150lbs ford promised and irs suspension)
V8- 430-450
This to me sounds a little bit better a slight hp increase plus less weight, and the people who buy the base model aren't restricted at all you could just tune it and get around 360-370 with a turbo 4. Not to mention if ford uses a engine from the focus rs or something similar I'm sure it'll have other mods like cams and heads and the list goes on.
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While the v6 power modability is limited to bolt-ons and FI, theres no shartage of quick ones around. I know several are in the 400+hp range which is amazing for a small v6. Yes it will never have the v8 rumble or catch the same amount of respect, but you save money on insurance (for us under 26 it really matters) and gas which is a hige plus for me. One of the reasons i got the sixxer after the crash
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Don't sneer that's rude :P and besides the v6 can't match the GT for torque or power made. Example not even sure they make cylinder heads/cams for the new v6 or even a new intake manifold...so where's the modability for power in that? Guess it comes down to if you want to build power the 05 is still a better platform for making power than the new v6. As for the whole bump in power I doubt anyone will feel regretful if their car has all of 20hp less then another. There's a lot of things you can do to gain that power on a GT.
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I have a 2013 and look at my other posts I do say it's good just not as good as the 05 when it comes to making power. The GT already has more torque as gains more mod for mod. The fact that it has 315hp is good but lets be real 4 bangers have had that much power for a long time and have better modability. Also yes when comparing a older generation gt to a older one of course the older one is going to be lacking. For what it is it finally gives people a car worth driving, but anything other than stock and it will fall behind the 05 GT's. some can argue the older mach1's from 1999 will beat the new v6 bone stock. It has all of what 10hp less in a car that only weighs 3200-3300lbs which is a lot less than the new v6. The new v6 is an achievement for mustangs, but when you broaden what other companies have done even in the past a 315hp v6 really isn't all that special especially when it has little to no after market support for it's engine. I have said its a good car and does shine because it's the first base model to have any ***** to it, but the fact remains if you still want more power your better off getting a older cobra, mach1, or 05+ GT than the new v6. Even dollar to dollar if you want power buy a old 5.0 for a few grand and supercharge it and your still under the price of a used 2011+ v6. I think your not paying attention to any of the positive things I say about the new v6 only the bad. I don't even compare looks because that's subjective. The bottom line is if you want a good car that won't break the bank and gose decently fast get the new v6. If you want power get the GT or a forgein car that has a turbo like a Sti, Evo, genesis coupe. The real problem is N/A v6 have a hard time making a lot of power n/a couple that with only bolt ons or FI and well you could have gotten a GT by that point. All factors aside if you want power get a GT you can even do more mods. If you just want a decently fast car and don't want to get into the engine just get the v6. Must I argue my point more or are you going to keep thinking my view of the v6 is all negative?
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I have a 2013 and look at my other posts I do say it's good just not as good as the 05 when it comes to making power. The GT already has more torque as gains more mod for mod. The fact that it has 315hp is good but lets be real 4 bangers have had that much power for a long time and have better modability. Also yes when comparing a older generation gt to a older one of course the older one is going to be lacking. For what it is it finally gives people a car worth driving, but anything other than stock and it will fall behind the 05 GT's. some can argue the older mach1's from 1999 will beat the new v6 bone stock. It has all of what 10hp less in a car that only weighs 3200-3300lbs which is a lot less than the new v6. The new v6 is an achievement for mustangs, but when you broaden what other companies have done even in the past a 315hp v6 really isn't all that special especially when it has little to no after market support for it's engine. I have said its a good car and does shine because it's the first base model to have any ***** to it, but the fact remains if you still want more power your better off getting a older cobra, mach1, or 05+ GT than the new v6. Even dollar to dollar if you want power buy a old 5.0 for a few grand and supercharge it and your still under the price of a used 2011+ v6. I think your not paying attention to any of the positive things I say about the new v6 only the bad. I don't even compare looks because that's subjective. The bottom line is if you want a good car that won't break the bank and gose decently fast get the new v6. If you want power get the GT or a forgein car that has a turbo like a Sti, Evo, genesis coupe. The real problem is N/A v6 have a hard time making a lot of power n/a couple that with only bolt ons or FI and well you could have gotten a GT by that point. All factors aside if you want power get a GT you can even do more mods. If you just want a decently fast car and don't want to get into the engine just get the v6. Must I argue my point more or are you going to keep thinking my view of the v6 is all negative?
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Yes you could get a gt for the same total price as a FI v6 but i still have the v6 and will still pay v6 insurance rates as well as savin a few bucks on gas, not that it really matters at that point. And you should check the numbers again. The last Mach 1 was 2003-2004, not 1999. And the hp is 305. I do see the positive things you have said about the v6 and i appreciate that. Just stating my opinions
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I have a 2013 and look at my other posts I do say it's good just not as good as the 05 when it comes to making power. The GT already has more torque as gains more mod for mod. The fact that it has 315hp is good but lets be real 4 bangers have had that much power for a long time and have better modability. Also yes when comparing a older generation gt to a older one of course the older one is going to be lacking. For what it is it finally gives people a car worth driving, but anything other than stock and it will fall behind the 05 GT's. some can argue the older mach1's from 1999 will beat the new v6 bone stock. It has all of what 10hp less in a car that only weighs 3200-3300lbs which is a lot less than the new v6. The new v6 is an achievement for mustangs, but when you broaden what other companies have done even in the past a 315hp v6 really isn't all that special especially when it has little to no after market support for it's engine. I have said its a good car and does shine because it's the first base model to have any ***** to it, but the fact remains if you still want more power your better off getting a older cobra, mach1, or 05+ GT than the new v6. Even dollar to dollar if you want power buy a old 5.0 for a few grand and supercharge it and your still under the price of a used 2011+ v6. I think your not paying attention to any of the positive things I say about the new v6 only the bad. I don't even compare looks because that's subjective. The bottom line is if you want a good car that won't break the bank and gose decently fast get the new v6. If you want power get the GT or a forgein car that has a turbo like a Sti, Evo, genesis coupe. The real problem is N/A v6 have a hard time making a lot of power n/a couple that with only bolt ons or FI and well you could have gotten a GT by that point. All factors aside if you want power get a GT you can even do more mods. If you just want a decently fast car and don't want to get into the engine just get the v6. Must I argue my point more or are you going to keep thinking my view of the v6 is all negative?
The new V6 is nothing to look down upon by anyone because they possess the GT. Flame suit on but I get the same satisfaction from the V6 as the other cars when I stomp on the gas. However, My state still has the same speed traps, speed limits, and accountability for how you operate a motor vehicle with consideration for safety and lives around you.
Not sure of your age or your priorities in life but I no longer enjoy paying at the pump and on car insurance. You can water this concept down all you want but I personally save lots of money every month. Money that I can invest, pay back my degrees, put into my house and best of all, use on my daughter.
I couldn't be happier with the V6. Remember, I own the 8 also. I've driven the 5.0 also...the fastest car I have ever ridden/driven in was a GT-R, modded lightning and 03 Cobra.
I applaud those cars and the owners who had the money to produce them. My money is going to my kid though
thanks to my little V6 for helping me get there and looking good along the way.Peace
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It's cool man. I'm just showing my respect for the V6. I have a S281SC and a 2011 V6. I also owned a Mach 1 briefly before an idiot ruined it.
The new V6 is nothing to look down upon by anyone because they possess the GT. Flame suit on but I get the same satisfaction from the V6 as the other cars when I stomp on the gas. My state still has the same speed traps, speed limits, and accountability for how you operate a motor vehicle with consideration for safety and lives around you.
Not sure of your age or your priorities in life but I no longer enjoy paying at the pump and on car insurance. You can water this concept down all you want but I personally save lots of money every month. Money that I can invest, pay back my degrees, put into my house and best of all, use on m daughter.
I couldn't be happier with the V6. Remember, I own the 8 also. I've driven the 5.0 also...the fastest car I have ever ridden/driven in was a GT-R, modded lightning and 03 Cobra.
I applaud those cars and the owners who had the money to produce them. My money is going to my kid though
thanks to my little V6 for helping me get there and looking good along the way.Peace
I had an 02 gt with borla stingers, BBK CAI and throttle body, and had it tuned with and SCT handheld. Some guy ran a stop sign and slammed my car, complete total. Was really bummed but im so happy with my sixxer. I miss the rumble of the v8 and ill get back in one in due time, but for now the v6 is all i need. School is way more important to me
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It's cool man. I'm just showing my respect for the V6. I have a S281SC and a 2011 V6. I also owned a Mach 1 briefly before an idiot ruined it.
The new V6 is nothing to look down upon by anyone because they possess the GT. Flame suit on but I get the same satisfaction from the V6 as the other cars when I stomp on the gas. However, My state still has the same speed traps, speed limits, and accountability for how you operate a motor vehicle with consideration for safety and lives around you.
Not sure of your age or your priorities in life but I no longer enjoy paying at the pump and on car insurance. You can water this concept down all you want but I personally save lots of money every month. Money that I can invest, pay back my degrees, put into my house and best of all, use on my daughter.
I couldn't be happier with the V6. Remember, I own the 8 also. I've driven the 5.0 also...the fastest car I have ever ridden/driven in was a GT-R, modded lightning and 03 Cobra.
I applaud those cars and the owners who had the money to produce them. My money is going to my kid though
thanks to my little V6 for helping me get there and looking good along the way.Peace
Amen!
I had an 02 gt with borla stingers, BBK CAI and throttle body, and had it tuned with and SCT handheld. Some guy ran a stop sign and slammed my car, complete total. Was really bummed but im so happy with my sixxer. I miss the rumble of the v8 and ill get back in one in due time, but for now the v6 is all i need. School is way more important to me
and yeah I don't have the same bills you do which is why I went with the GT. we're i in your shoes I would have gotten and would have been happy with the new v6.
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Amen!
I had an 02 gt with borla stingers, BBK CAI and throttle body, and had it tuned with and SCT handheld. Some guy ran a stop sign and slammed my car, complete total. Was really bummed but im so happy with my sixxer. I miss the rumble of the v8 and ill get back in one in due time, but for now the v6 is all i need. School is way more important to me
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Auto convertable v6 mustangs are stereo typical girls cars. :P lol jk convertible sounds nicish.
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GM is recycling the engine name again. This will be the 3rd go around for it. Originally it was LT-1. Then LT1 for the Gen2 small block. LS family for the Gen3 and Gen4 small blocks. Now this Gen5 small block is going back to LT1 in the Corvette (and we can assume eventually the Camaro as well)
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GM is recycling the engine name again. This will be the 3rd go around for it. Originally it was LT-1. Then LT1 for the Gen2 small block. LS family for the Gen3 and Gen4 small blocks. Now this Gen5 small block is going back to LT1 in the Corvette (and we can assume eventually the Camaro as well)
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Wasnt the LT1 worse then the LS? Well that explains why the corvette always sounds bad I guess. As for you Mr. V how dare you use complicated traps! It might back fire you might be riding shotgun the whole time or even worse she drives to the beach and a GT owner kicks sand at you and takes the girl. :P ha turned your trap against you sir!
Gen2 = LT1 family Chevy Small block (fuel injected)
Gen3 = LS family GM corporate Small block family (LS1, LS2, LS4, LS6 etc.)
Gen4 = LS family "improved" (LS3, LS9, LSA, etc.) facilitated Active fuel management in some engines.
Gen5 = LT family (again) new LT1 in the Vette. New GM small block family for trucks. Includes direct injection
This is just off the top of my head. What is old is new again. Doesn't have the same cachet as "Hemi" does over at Chrysler though.
For comparisons sake my GTO has an LS1 5.7 V8 from the Gen3 family. The G8 GT has a L76 6.0 V8 from the Gen4 family.
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Wasnt the LT1 worse then the LS? Well that explains why the corvette always sounds bad I guess.
I must be weird or only heard modified corvettes. The ones I heard back then sounded good.
As for you Mr. V how dare you use complicated traps! It might back fire you might be riding shotgun the whole time or even worse she drives to the beach and a GT owner kicks sand at you and takes the girl. :P ha turned your trap against you sir!
