I just ford would put a big block in the normal gt that would be awesome. Or at least make a boss 429.

 

I would hate to see the coyote motor replaced with something all new for Mustang's 50th.

Its always seemed like Ford's engine program was a mess with many engine variants competing for the same slice of pie or just unnecessary duplication. Windsor vs Cleveland is a good example or with the Mod motor Windsor vs Romeo and the front dress and cam cover foolishness there or even say coyote vs 6.2L V8 in the trucks.

Why not just a short and tall deck version of the coyote so that Ford could better take advantage of economies of scale and further reduce the cost of the 5.0 and any derivatives

 

Has Ford experimented with upping the displacement of the Coyote V8? Maybe using larger bores? I know the 5.0 is a hallowed displacement but a higher displacement version in say a top-level GT option or Mach1 version would be pretty cool. And it could help with their trucks as well. Just a thought.

 

I'm still thinking the next GT wont be much more powerful in terms of peak horsepower numbers. However, delivery of it will change! It'll have better aerodynamics, and ACTUALLY be able to put it all to the ground. (praying the IRS works well)

I bet besides a small jump in power, it'll all be in making (in my opinion sadly) it more of a sports car rather than a muscle car.

Although it'll be a better sports car, i'm afraid it'll lose that throw-around-sleezy-girl vibe. The kind that tosses and turns, rolls this way, pitches that way, screams, screeches, you have to really man-handle to control yet puts the biggest smile on your face!

Ford hasn't disappointed me yet though and I'm not expecting this one to either.

 

Sadly, I think the days of monster displacement motors is gone. Forced induction is the new hotness.

 

^ all this stuff

 

Very well said. Although the three from detroit are still tryin to be muscle cars of yesteryear, i believe their more pony cars on the verge of being real sports cars. I wish we still had the rawness of four on the floor, big displacement carbed motors, and fat rear tires smoking at every stop light!

But progress is a wonderful thing and the big three have come a very long way. And it can only get better from here. Competition brings out the best so heres to hoping that theyll all use each other to please the masses.

Ford may bring a new design and have something ready for the 16MY Camaro and possibility of the Cuda coming back from Dodge. This would play right along with how they did the 10-11 transition. The new camaro was released onto our streets woth dominance so Ford responded with a brand new engine line-up so there is a strong possibility of a new line-up at the ready, just waiting to fire back and reclaim its throne should they fall to either of its biggest competitiors.

The next gen will be lighter, faster, more efficient, and overall better. I trust Ford will do this right since the Mustang is like their flagship. I have faith that the next gen will stun the world just we did with the 03-04 Cobra and new '13 GT500. Bring on the big 50th!

 

We already win the hp and torque race with the gt1000.

 

But thats not from Ford and its also not mass produced

 

All of this and your last post. I agree Ford could slow down a bit on the engines.

Side note:
I disagree that displacement is dead. GM still uses a 427. And a 376 and a 494. Ford is the one using small displacement to its heart's content.

 

STi is 3385 and EVO is 3515. The regular impreza weighs around 3200.

 

Chevy and dodge are still using big displacement motors but Ford is the one pioneering with smaller displacement and FI. The days of big motors are slowly dying and FI is the new trend. Ever restrictive emissions and mpg standards are forcing this upon us but i wouldnt say its necessarily a bad thing.
I mean look at the auto market. Supercars with hybrid powertrains makin stupid power, turbo 4 bangers able to hang with those a class above them, and lighter, faster vehicles are popping out like kids in springtime

 

This. I'll admit... I wouldn't mind eventually owning an OEM 20XX Mustang GT-TT
There sure would be something world altering with stock twins on a Mustang V8 getting 30mpg+ with 500hp on a conservative tune...
and what would be even better! ...Is Ford doing all of that with a live axle. lol Just to **** everyone off. lol

 

I get that Ford is doing this. Actually GM is too, look at the Cruze. I will say that turbo engines are no god send. The best feature is when not using the turbo you have a low compression small displacement engine. But under boost its no longer a small displacement. FI changes that. And it's no gas saint, it's a gas suck.

I do enjoy the trend though and I hope advancement continues.

Without weight and aero drag a big V8 can keep the efficiency up. Lets simplify and add lightness, rather than complexity.

 

Don't know where your getting that number from when I looked it up and the wrx (not Sti) is 3200ish on Edmonds.

 

I doubt Ford will introduce a new engine. Introducing a new motor is not exactly a wave of the magic wand. Design, testing, durability testing, certification--all take time. The EPA throws a myriad number of tests at mfgs. Clean fuel fleet, tier 0, tier 1, tier 2. CARB (California Clean Air Board) approval is also necessary (if you want to sell a vehicle in California.) The 5.0 didn't appear as a result of the Camaro. The 5.0 was in design and testing long before Chevy ever put an F5 on the showroom floor.

The messiness of Ford's engine programs approaches legendary proportions, but produced some of the most interesting motors to hit the streets, and to die on the shop floor. The Boss 429 NASCAR motor for example--not the choked version that made it into the Mustang. The aluminum block 494 with the dry sump oil system that Ford created for Can-Am. The 427 SHOC which Connie Kalitta used to destroy the competition with The Bounty Hunter. More recently even more exotic Ford projects strayed off the beaten path. The 412-HP 5.0 went mainstream in 2011, but Ford actually had a prior 4.9 mod motor in 2000 that spit out 415-HP. It was in an S197 with a 50/50 weight distribution, that never made it to production, (broke my heart). I liked the Boss 351 concept V10. (430-HP, 405-ft lbs) but it turned out to be just an engineering exercise. The V10 that was shoe-horned into the 2003 427 concept was sick. I had hopes when it made an appearance in project Daisy, but it never made it out of the concept stage (too bad).

Its been messy--but very interesting!

 

Subaru's website

 

Yes but was the number for the wrx as well? You do know the Sti and the wrx have different drive trains and suspension as well as a different transmission.

 

I just mentioned the STi and EVO. Don't know how much of a difference the regular WRX is. Yes I know they have different trans, and some different parts. Believe the AWD system is the same only dif I remember is you could change the differential settings on the STi. And I found the weight for the non-turbo impreza.
Couldn't find the weight of the fully dressed 2.5 with turbo and intercooler.

 

Id say add at least 100 lbs