2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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i'm thinking with just a cold air kit, we may level out with the the Camaro in HP numbers. And that's just the beginning. I'm pretty sure there's lots of potential with that new motor.
And then said Camaro gets a CAI and cam swap. I know people don't realize that you can't compare a stock car to modded, but stock for stock the Mustang should be able to beat the Camaro in a straight line. It already outhandles and matches the braking of the Camaro with the Track Pack, so I think we'll be good. I'm not concerned with having the fastest car out there. It's impossible. I want a nice street legal 400-ish Hp Mustang with 6spd from the factory. I was too young to get a Cobra new. Now that day is here with the GT. And I'm going to finally pull the trigger!

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
The articles have been removed altogether, not just the torque figure. This would indicate, to me at least, that the leaked figures are legit.

I'd say Ford is pretty pissed right now.
Well then why would they take down the torque numbers and not everything else? Maybe the numbers are wrong????
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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I noticed that too. There's a lot of pissed off Ford PR people for leaking this so early.
Deep down inside they are really happy, though, that there is so much excitement about the 2011 Mustang. Pent up demand for big power is a good problem to have!
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
And then said Camaro gets a CAI and can swap. I know people don't realize that you can't compare a stock car to modded, but stock for stock the Mustang should be able to beat the Camaro in a straight line. It already outhandles and matches the braking of the Camaro with the Track Pack, so I think we'll be good. I'm not concerned with having the fastest car out there. It's impossible. I want a nice street legal 400-ish Hp Mustang with 6spd from the factory. I was too young to get a Cobra new. Now that day is here with the GT. And I'm going to finally pull the trigger!
same here besides there will always be someone faster. This new GT will make suffering through college more worth it!

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Well then why would they take down the torque numbers and not everything else? Maybe the numbers are wrong????
I still see both numbers up on autoblog....
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Dear Ford,
Please relax your grip on the subject "news". The diehards were in the loop already, if only based on rumours lead by CEO Alan himself. From a historical point of view, it sucks to lose the 2010 sales race to the opposition after winning it for so many years in a row. However, we (Ford and it's supporters) will just have to let that go as the facts haven't changed and that is what matters. Fact 1: You build/t the better all around pony car in 2010. Fact 2: There was a lot of pent up demand for the Camaro after being off the market for 7 years. Fact 3: The introduction of the new powertrains didn't coincide with the body re-design because they just weren't ready. As opposed to rushing to market with band-aid solutions (see: weights on brakes) you chose the right path.

I find it hard to believe that anybody who is horsepower hungry bought a 2010 MGT and is regretting it. Anybody that fanatical did the research and held off. That being said, 2010 MGT owners haven't "lost" anything. 315 hp/325 ft-lb is more than 80% of the people -on the road, with a license- can safely drive. Kudos to those that recognize their limits. Seriously...a lot of us here are hardcore enthusiasts with track experience, we can handle more...but a majority of "drivers" have no business being behind the wheel of a 05-09 MGT, much less adding 33% more hp.

In conclusion, Ford, I would like to say thank you for continuing to rock my world with your world class, kick *** automobiles.

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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KevinDust please go outside for awhile and breath some fresh air
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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KevinDust please go outside for awhile and breath some fresh air

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
The articles have been removed altogether, not just the torque figure. This would indicate, to me at least, that the leaked figures are legit.

I'd say Ford is pretty pissed right now.
The second Autoblog article is still up.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchell Colvin
Just find it funny that we get so caught up the hp and the magazine wars that we forget the truth...the general population can't drive and handing them 400 hp is a death trap.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mitchell Colvin
Well then why would they take down the torque numbers and not everything else? Maybe the numbers are wrong????
The article I was referring to was taken down completely. There are still several that have the magic 390 lb-ft listed on their respective sites.

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The second Autoblog article is still up.
Where?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MARZ
The article I was referring to was taken down completely. There are still several that have the magic 390 lb-ft listed on their respective sites.



Where?
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/18/i...d-mustangs-5-0

Here
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Spadaro
Thanks. I thought they had taken it off their main page. I will say, though, that the article still does mention 390 lb-ft of torque at a specific RPM.

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Ford PR was not happy, I heard stories of them 'putting the cap back on the genie' if you will.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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so whats the redline? 6500rpm is where you get your peak horsepower but what about where this motor is redlined or safe to spin to for that matter.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Ford PR was not happy, I heard stories of them 'putting the cap back on the genie' if you will.
Thanks a lot, now I've got a picture of some guys in suits trying to force the genie from Aladdin back into his lamp and he isn't having any of it.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Ford PR was not happy, I heard stories of them 'putting the cap back on the genie' if you will.
Its too little, too late. Now all they can do is release someone from employment, but that will still not change anything.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven
Its too little, too late. Now all they can do is release someone from employment, but that will still not change anything.
I doesn't sound like the leak came from within Ford. I take it that it came a member of the media who had been present during Ford's pre-NAIAS conference.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven
Its too little, too late. Now all they can do is release someone from employment, but that will still not change anything.
True, but they can still put a few phone calls out, especially when the media was at Ford all day again today, and ask to take down/edit the info from their site.

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I doesn't sound like the leak came from within Ford. I take it that it came a member of the media who had been present during Ford's pre-NAIAS conference.
Bingo. I would have rather had the info and pics all at once, but there's nothing we can do about it now.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 03:48 AM
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Maybe Ford Legal/Media is all wound up because the new car was scheduled to be introduced as a 5.1 with 432hp? (Ode to Fox)
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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Don't know... Sounds all a bit too 'easy' for me. What if this leak is fake?

A ploy by Ford. Leaking disinformation...?

What if, they are holding back the real news for their offical release?

...425 hp / 400 lb-ft
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