2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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The only tweek the '11 V6 got was a chin spoiler right?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by zzcoop
I dunno. The '05 design went four years with nary a tweak. Why would we see a new fascia after just one model year?

'Cos the 05-09 didn't receive a honking great new engine, worthy of new facias

The CS/GT proves it can be done.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You'll see why
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
'Cos the 05-09 didn't receive a honking great new engine, worthy of new facias

The CS/GT proves it can be done.
Fair enough.

Whatever they do, it looks like I've got a LOT of spousal convincing (aka begging) in my future.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Great stuff!! Congrats Ford on an outstanding job!! This car will replace my leased 2008 maxima SE in 10 months!!
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zzcoop
Fair enough.

Whatever they do, it looks like I've got a LOT of spousal convincing (aka begging) in my future.
No amount of begging will get me a 2011 GT

However, if it did......this is the facia I want on it!

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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You could smuggle a midget under that hood scoop.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zzcoop
You could smuggle a midget under that hood scoop.
Yea that hood scoop doesnt go LOL
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2010MustangGT
Where's that peak torque reached at RPM wise?
I'm hoping below 5k...
I'd guess somewhere in the 4k range.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by zzcoop
Even if it were the '11 (it's not) why would you be expecting different fascias?
How about needing to flow 1.33 times more airflow for cooling and for the engine's intake?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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25 MPG highway is impressive until you take into account Chevy managed to get the same rating with it's heavier SS Camaro with A/T (M/T is 24).

For some strange reason, the Mustang 3.7L M/T looses 1 MPG vs. A/T, so if this is also the case with the 5.0L GT, they've matched both Camaro numbers ... anyone else not all excited about 25 MPG now ??

The A/T Camaro gains it's meager 1 MPG highway over the M/T version with 26 less HP AND cylinder deactivation !!

The Mustang's 3.7L w/ A/T will be one-upping the Camaro V6 on both city & highway MPG with 19/30 vs. 18/29 (M/T one-ups on city only 18/29 vs. 17/29), so I thought with less curb weight & 81% of displacent Ford would be able to one-up the SS Camaro too on MPG rather than simply matching it.

Just something to think about.

Doug
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by orange3.9stang
25 MPG highway is impressive until you take into account Chevy managed to get the same rating with it's heavier SS Camaro with A/T (M/T is 24).

For some strange reason, the Mustang 3.7L M/T looses 1 MPG vs. A/T, so if this is also the case with the 5.0L GT, they've matched both Camaro numbers ... anyone else not all excited about 25 MPG now ??

The A/T Camaro gains it's meager 1 MPG highway over the M/T version with 26 less HP AND cylinder deactivation !!

The Mustang's 3.7L w/ A/T will be one-upping the Camaro V6 on both city & highway MPG with 19/30 vs. 18/29 (M/T one-ups on city only 18/29 vs. 17/29), so I thought with less curb weight & 81% of displacent Ford would be able to one-up the SS Camaro too on MPG rather than simply matching it.

Just something to think about.

Doug
The manual 3.7 Mustang loses 1mpg over the automatic due to only having 1 overdrive gear. 5th gear in the manual is 1:1. The automatic has 2 overdrive gears with 4th being 1:1.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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As I understand it, the Camaro only gets 24 mpg because of cylinder deactivation. The 5.0 doesn't rely on this and the accompanying loss of power.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You'll see why
(Said in a sarcastic tone while looking at Boomer's avatar) I wonder what it could be?
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by orange3.9stang
25 MPG highway is impressive until you take into account Chevy managed to get the same rating with it's heavier SS Camaro with A/T (M/T is 24).

For some strange reason, the Mustang 3.7L M/T looses 1 MPG vs. A/T, so if this is also the case with the 5.0L GT, they've matched both Camaro numbers ... anyone else not all excited about 25 MPG now ??

The A/T Camaro gains it's meager 1 MPG highway over the M/T version with 26 less HP AND cylinder deactivation !!

The Mustang's 3.7L w/ A/T will be one-upping the Camaro V6 on both city & highway MPG with 19/30 vs. 18/29 (M/T one-ups on city only 18/29 vs. 17/29), so I thought with less curb weight & 81% of displacent Ford would be able to one-up the SS Camaro too on MPG rather than simply matching it.

Just something to think about.

Doug

The 05-09 mustangs said 23mpg.. and most of us get 25-28 all day so mpg is subjective, and i didn't buy an 8 cylinder car for it's gas mileage...( i personally get 26-28 on the highway.. so what happend to 23?)
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSugeKnight
The only tweek the '11 V6 got was a chin spoiler right?
I didn't think it was changed at all.
Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
No amount of begging will get me a 2011 GT

However, if it did......this is the facia I want on it!

+ 1,000,000,000!
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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I ran across this....
2011 Mustang Order Bank

A couple of entries to drool over...the first one is a California Special and the second has Brembo brakes!!!


CNGP530 VEHICLE ORDER CONFIRMATION 12/12/09
2011 MUSTANG Page: 1 of 1
Order No: 1212 Priority: 80 Order Type: 2 Price Level: 100
Ord Code: 402A Cust/Flt Name: PO Number:
RETAIL DLR INV RETAIL DLR INV
P8C GT COUPE PREM
457 3.73 LTD SLIP
U6 RED CANDY
BLACK STRIPE
L NAT GRAIN LTHR
W DARK CHARCOAL
402A RAPID SPEC
.CAL SPECIAL PKG
.GT CARPET MAT
.GT SIDE TAPE ST
.SIDE SCOOPS
.PEDESTAL SPOIL
99F .5.0L 4V TI-VCT
44X .6-SPD MAN TRANS
T3U .P245/45/R19
FRT LICENSE BKT
31S MUSTANG VPC


CNGP530 VEHICLE ORDER CONFIRMATION 12/12/09
2011 MUSTANG Page: 1 of 1
Order No: 1212 Priority: 80 Order Type: 2 Price Level: 100
Ord Code: 400A Cust/Flt Name: PO Number:
RETAIL DLR INV RETAIL DLR INV
P8C GT COUPE PREM
945 GT COUPE PKG5
PQ RACE RED
.DECKLID PANEL
4 TURN MINI PERF
.HOOD SCOOP
W DARK CHARCOAL
.QUART WIND LOUV
400A RAPID SPEC
.SIDE SCOOPS
99F .5.0L 4V TI-VCT
.PEDESTAL SPOIL
44X .6-SPD MAN TRANS
13D SPOILER DELETE
FRT LICENSE BKT
31S MUSTANG VPC
457 3.73 LTD SLIP
46D TAPE STRIPE DEL
55D BREMBO BRAKE PK
.P255/40/R19 Z
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfsburg
As I understand it, the Camaro only gets 24 mpg because of cylinder deactivation. The 5.0 doesn't rely on this and the accompanying loss of power.
The manual doesn't have cylinder deactivation. No LS3's do.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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But they do have skipshift...
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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So does the 6060 in the 10' It makes high rpm 2nd gears shifts something you have to relearn. It's how tremec got the 6060 in the 10' GT500 a 610 ft/lbs torque rating.
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