Why the difference in performance numbers from the '05 to the '06? Looks like the '05 is better in the low end, until about 4500rpm. Where the '06 is better all the way through.

Also, any pics of the anodized blue one?

 

Here is a link to their site. It has the tbody & other parts in blue.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com...tang/index.htm

 

Drat. I did some reading on that exhaust last night and I would pull the trigger on it except for one thing, the 3" exhaust tips. The stock tips are 3" and they just look too small. Oh well, looks like I'm back to the FRPP/ Borlas.

 

 

May want to wait a little too, see what turns up.

 

I don't think anyone has tried one of his other sensors yet either(here I mean). He says he has one for the JLT, maybe he's got one for the Steeda too.

 

So you are saying because you are old you know more? So in that case i should just go down the street to the old folks home and find me a 100 year lady to come here and post tech on EFI cars . Think man think.

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Originally Posted by ski

IMHO, I think that even you do not understand how your own products work.

You have this bass ackwards

Additional enlightening info on GMS:
http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums...ad.php?t=25368

This only proves my point. More people that want their day in the lime light. This is where SKI belongs withthe other guys that want to trash talk and focus on nothing of substance
Thanks!

Ski, don't you want to go home and beat your dog or something?

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Originally Posted by harleybill

Controversy can be good so I went out and read it. Sounded like a bunch of 15 year olds that also 1. Didn't have his products. 2. Were bashing his stuff on what ricky****ybob said on some other post years ago (who also didn't have the products). Point to a couple of worthwhile posts and maybe you wouldn't come across as a winner. Get some substance here or don't bother posting because you’re now just wasting our time.

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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT

Let's get something straight right here and now JR, I never claimed that I fully understood how your product worked. I said, I understood the concept of how your MAF sensor works with your intake tube..And everything I've ever said about your product, were direct quoates that you, yourself provided when answering my questions, for ie this quoate you provided from an earlier post, that I posted below.. So now you come up with the excuse, that you were fearful of the competition figuring out your technology, so you decided to hold out, from revealing the complete details, until now right ?? Well as far as I'm concerned, if you had been completely open with me, from the very beginning..Perhaps I would have had a full understanding of how your product works..Now which is true and which isn't ???

M05fastbackGT – I am not looking for trouble. It is simple to me and I sometimes assume others understand stuff that I then realize they don’t. I mean no ill will but at the end of the day the GMS parts have proven themselves day in and day out. That is all that should be said. However everyone wants to speculate on how we do it and I am only willing to give so much information.

What I find interesting and somewhat disheartening is when certain people take my words and then twist them to fit their own agenda. Or worse then that, they quote my earlier posts as if it were their own knowledge but in the process they misquote a portion of the information which immediately exposes them to the BS factor. If I went on these boards and said here is my stuff - TRUST me it works people like SKI would say see he can’t talk tech. If I talk tech then keyboard cowboys want to match wits with me. I am not here to fight – I want to talk to everyone in an open forum where we can all learn from each other. I don’t think I am smarter then the rest of you and I know I can learn from even a novice or beginner because sometimes when you are on the outside looking in you can see stuff other can’t.

In short I am a very young 39. I still jump into puddles and do burn outs at stop lights just for fun. I am all kid in heart and spirit but I do my job very well and I have been afforded the luxury of growing up in a racing family with some serious history. I make it a point to surround myself with the best there is in the business and I can always draw information from several family members that have tons of hands on experience as well.

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Originally Posted by BIB06

Well how about we just wait until the GMS CAI comes out with the Fuego tuner and really watch it blow SCT and other tuners out of the water. Dyno's don't lie come on. You think he actuallu sits there and photoshop's the little lines on the dyno readout I'm sure he has more important things to do....like make money by selling millions of CAI's to people who believe in him and his products. +1 for GMS

BIB06 – that is why we back all this stuff up with Video. Thanks for the trust and confidence in GMS – you can all go to our video page and see every test we run
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/video.htm just use the pull down menu

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/video22.htm

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/video13.htm

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/video14.htm


Posted by ski
C'mon. You mean to tell me that no one has the nads to confirm the GMS CAI performance gain claims on a 3rd party dyno? Or are all of you afraid that the results will show you were hoodwinked?

 

I can do the Steeda no problem but I have not so far. If someone wants to send me thiers - I will do it and send it back

 

 

I know I'm probably wasting my time even replying to this nonsense because you've got some personal grudge against Granatelli and all the logic in the world isn't going to make a difference, but I'm going to try anyway. Take a look at a C&L intake. Now take a look at the Granatelli intake. Not much difference, is there. Do you dispute that the C&L works? Hopefully not, because there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. You do dispute that the Granatelli works despite presented evidence on this one as well. Look, intakes are not exactly rocket science, it's a matter of making a bigger opening than stock and smoothing it out so the air flows through unobstructed. Based on that, how can the Granatelli NOT work? You've got dyno reports here, you've got several people reporting that the butt dyno reports favorable gains, you've even got a guy that said his car was used for the dyno, that he was present and that Granatelli would not go near the dyno without a witness present, and that the dyno report is legit. You've taken all of this evidence and dismissed it, so clearly it is not possible to convince you that this product isn't snake oil.

Instead of focusing a large percentage of your energy following Granatelli around and whining, why don't you do something positive and productive with your life? Spend some more time with your kids (if you have any), donate some time to a homeless shelter or something. Your time here is pointless and wasted.

 

 

How about the performance difference between the '05 and the '06 (re: your dyno graphs)?

 

You're right. The dyno graph we posted on the 05 sucks. It is a bad representation of what our product will do. We were doing a test to see if we would loose power if we heat soaked teh engine. Bottom end power and torque dropped do to the super hot air but even with everything stacked against us it still made power and torque. I need to post a better Dyno graph but this just shows we don't hide any info

 

From what I read, you guys have great customer service and a great product. I'm ready to pull the trigger, just want to make sure I see power gains all the way through the rpm band.

How long too get an anodized blue TB and CAI? Should I order it through you or a retailer? I've seen through you I can get the CAI for $330 through end of the month.

 

Polished cold air and blue t-body would be 350+330+shipping so 680.00 plus freight figure 710-ish

 

I'm curious about how one can determine what a "bad representation" is?? Is that when the numbers don't live up to the hype? Conversely, if the dyno shows better than reality, would that be called a "misrepresentation". I just read a few posts ago where one guy said "dynos don't lie"...

People who rely too much on dyno numbers to make decisions really don't understand all the variables in play.

 

Don what exactly are you asking? Even in the worse possible condictions it still made a 24hp increase in power

 

What do you care?

 

None whatsoever... but that doesn't preclude me from responding when I want too.

 

Nothing, really. Just rhetorical questions I offered for my own amusement.