05GTRedfire

Wonder what conspiracy theory he'll use now

jayguy

ski

Here you go:

Granatelli claims 23.7 hp was made with his CAI/MAF/TB in Post #3. Posts #1 & #2 provide the background for Post #3. Posts #1 & #2 are at the bottom of page 4 in this string, and Post #3 is at the top of page 5.

In Post #4 he claims that the 23.7 hp was made using just his CAI/MAF. This post is at the top of page 6 in this string.

Post #1
Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Joe, can you let us know, at what RPM range, were the 23.7hp and 9ft/lbs posted on the dyno results..Thanks
Originally Posted by Granatelli
I still don't have the dyno computer up but stock was 259.8 @ 5500rpm and 279.1 @ 4000 on torque. With our parts in place - 283.5 at 6100 and 288.1 @ 4000

Post #2
Quote:
Originally Posted by 05GTRedfire
Was that just the CAI, or was that the CAI and the throttle body?

Post #3
Originally Posted by Granatelli
CAI and T-body

Post #4
Quote:
2. How much HP can be expected with a CAI & your MAS. – 23hp and 9ft/lbs

ski

I fully understand that dyno numbers will vary even if the runs are performed on identical engines with identical mods under identical conditions due to the slight manufacturing and assembly differences in each engine.
However, it's not the variation of the numbers from different dyno runs that I'm questioning. I'm questioning why you made blatant contradictory claims on how 23.7 hp was produced from a single dyno run on one engine(See my post prior to this one for the details.). As a wary consumer, I (and I'm sure others) become extremely suspicious whenever something's amiss with a supplier's claim about his product(s).
And so, I'm simply asking you for a direct answer to that single issue.

BTW, knowing that anything can be typed into a dyno sheet's 'Comments' section, was the 29 hp and 24 ft-lb. gain produced with or without your TB?

Mustang Buster

JR,

PM Sent in regard to the CAI. Also, Jim's install procedure for the Granatelli Single STB worked great, and it now clears the Ford Engine Cover on my 2007.

m05fastbackGT

After looking over the latest dyno results, I'm now somewhat confused..If I'm not mistaken, the original results were 23.7 additional HP. and an additional 9ft.lbs Torque.. Now all of a sudden those numbers have increased to 28.2 additional HP. and 24.1 lbs. Torque.. Therefore let me get this straight..Are you trying to claim that just you're CAI/MAS w/no tune provide the very same HP and Torque increases, as a cold air kit with a re-flash ?? Because if you are..I find that very difficult to accept..

SteelTownStang

Is the 2007 CAI ready yet?

Mustang Buster

They called me today and said it was, so hopefully I will be getting the updated MAF Sensor and harness this week. I attempted the first 2007 install a few weeks ago, and that is when we discovered that changes had to be made for the 07's. They got some really good gains on their test 2007--like 27hp, but I'm sure JR will post the actual numbers.

Blitz

This is a copy from what I posted on one of the other threads:

First, while new to TMS, I've been following along since 3/12 when I learned I could order an "07..which I did 3/20, delivered 7/20 (See Blue Oval Forums under Order Tracking) "07GT Coupe, 5 spd, 355's".

Got introd to GMS looking for a Tower Strut Brace that would fit the GT package with engine cover...called when I saw the postings saying it woudn't fit...had also read about the CAI/MAF set-up, and was asked by GMS if I was willing to drive 60 miles north to Oxnard...I said yes.

Had never talked to or met JR.....he has clearly grown up and kept up with automotive performance. He is an honorable businessman with a clean shop and superb staff. (I am in the retained executive search business, and have visited hundreds if busineses and interviewed thousands of people) Other than 2 pit stops I was with JR for nearly 7 hours...he would not go near the Dyno to check resulrs without insisting I shadow him.

You will see the results nearly mirror those posted above for an '06...as HarleyBill found, this is a great set-up, and you can feel the performance.

JR will have to post the results....I have copies @ home (still in the office)

ski

JR,

Since you have not responded to my latest post in this string, then I can only surmise that you were purposely attempting to mislead us.

AFChief

Blitz,

Throttle response improvement too?

harleybill

Personally I think he is just tired of saying the same old thing over and over again which seems to go over some peoples heads. I know I almost hate to read this post anymore and I'm not him. He has made so many statements on this that no wonder he might have added or forgotten something in one of them. When he did the recap in the BIG RED LETTERS, that should be what you base your numbers on. IF you can even get CLOSE to these numbers then the price beats the crap out of the other units (only due to the tune not being necessary). He posted results, you have testimony of people that have actually gone to him and I can verify that the stuff is hot. Yes, I know I don't have a dyno but I can feel the difference (that's what counts) and it's not just a 10 or 15 HP pickup. Throttle response and pickup are MUCH better. Even the sound is better. Bottom Line: This is a quality unit, fairly priced and top notch Customer Service (read about some of these other vendors that never get back to the customer). I'm glad I bought the unit, runs great, even have the mufflers that still sound good and no more drone(Borla). I'm beginning to think some of you work for a competitor?? Maybe?

05GTRedfire

I can't believe some people still don't want to believe this. I will agree with harley 100%. This system, right now, is the best CAI that you can get for the 05+ Mustang GT in my opinion. The gains are incredible, and the sound is sweet. If you're still having problems reading the dyno numbers, then try cleaning the window on your stomach.

Blitz

In my opinion, yes...and it sounds great as well!

awakeinAZ

He is responding on one of the other threads, located here.

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...t=49471&page=7

Cleveland

Well, the best "CAI" is still up in the air for the JLT and C&L, but I suppose the GMS unit is somewhere up there.

-Dan

harleybill

You HAVE to include this unit as one of the tops...Your spending 300.00 + for what is basically going to cost you 700.00 for most other units that are just adding a tuner, not to mention the hassle of getting another tune every time you upgrade something (and voiding warranty). You also really need to go to a shop that specializes in tuning and have them dyno you to fully utalize the system (again, not all cars being equal, not all tunes are going to benefit everybody equally). I think we all agree that the other units are also of great quality. You just have to give this dog it's due for the simple purpose of cost per performance increase (best bang for the buck). Is the extra 3-4 hundred bucks worth the difference in claims between the units?

don_w

Yes... because having a handheld tuner is a key to many other mods besides a CAI. Even something simple like changing tire diameter or rear gears requires a tuner to recalibrate the speedo. And you can't even get a dyno tune without one. So why not do it right the first time?

ski

People tire quickly when they have to scramble around for a straight and honest answer.

If he's as intelligent as some people claim, then he should be able to pick the fly s..t out of the pepper.

How can anyone base their numbers on that claim when the supplier himself directly contradicts it with another claim?

That's the first I've heard of anyone who can 'feel' the difference between 15 hp and 23 hp.

Not in this corner. I'm just trying to prevent people from fulfilling the proverb "There's a sucker born every minute."

ski

Looks like someone else has also seen the light.