What are some improvements you want to see in the NEXT GEN redesign?
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The AWD systems in the G35 and Charger drive just like a RWD car and only put power to the front wheels to gain traction.
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+1 I was about to say the exact same thing.
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Originally Posted by #13
I'm guessing that most of you would no longer be able to afford the mustang you WANT Ford to make.
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So what about things like fuel injection and disc brakes? I don't see how offering AWD would change what it is made for. Ferreri and Lamborghini are in the process of eliminating manual transmissions from their lineups. Mustang fans shouldn't wan't to reject progress. With the option the purist can still keep the car RWD if he/she chooses. I think it would make it a more practical vehicle for those that live along the snow belt. I for one am less inclined to buy another mustang as a daily driver for this reason. If Ford offered AWD then it would be a no brainer for me.
The AWD systems in the G35 and Charger drive just like a RWD car and only put power to the front wheels to gain traction.
The AWD systems in the G35 and Charger drive just like a RWD car and only put power to the front wheels to gain traction.
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So what about things like fuel injection and disc brakes? I don't see how offering AWD would change what it is made for. Ferreri and Lamborghini are in the process of eliminating manual transmissions from their lineups. Mustang fans shouldn't wan't to reject progress. With the option the purist can still keep the car RWD if he/she chooses. I think it would make it a more practical vehicle for those that live along the snow belt. I for one am less inclined to buy another mustang as a daily driver for this reason. If Ford offered AWD then it would be a no brainer for me.
The AWD systems in the G35 and Charger drive just like a RWD car and only put power to the front wheels to gain traction.
The AWD systems in the G35 and Charger drive just like a RWD car and only put power to the front wheels to gain traction.
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Originally Posted by xlover
while i think AWD would benefit the mustang (especially in northern climates) it would have to be a system similar to the one audi puts on its S and RS cars where they use an active rear differential and torsion style center diff to give the rear wheel drive style handling with the advantage of AWD grip. however that rear diff is a 1k option on top of an already 50-60k car, plus ford has nothing like that developed in its parts bin. the AWD systems they have are all designed for uni body SUVs and giving family sedans some extra traction. i just dont see ford being able to engineer all that specifically for the mustang and what will be a low take rate option. i wouldnt want them to half *** it or add 5gs to the price.
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I'm gonna have to side with the others in the 'No AWD' camp. I just don't see it as fitting the character of the Stang. I'd rather the R&D be spent on other things
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I'm gonna have to side with the others in the 'No AWD' camp. I just don't see it as fitting the character of the Stang. I'd rather the R&D be spent on other things
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I hope not. It won't kill the car for me, but I feel like if someone needs awd there are other cars available to fill that need
Just saying someday it'll get dragged along into the 21rst century with the others.
Wouldn't mind seeing a SVO version with AWD based upon a rear wheel drive biased AWD coming down from a Lincoln flagship coupe.
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I guess most people are against AWD. I just don't understand why though, I agree that it should not be standard but why not as an option. Times change. This option would not change the personality of the car, just makes it more complete. I don't see anybody complaining about a Turbo 4 or launch control ...
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i have an AWD sport sedan so i am pro AWD however Dodge and infinity's systems are not designed to enhance performance they are merely for bad weather traction. there is a significant difference in the way the system needs to operate in order to provide handling benefit vs just bad weather traction. you will notice the SRT is not available with AWD and infiniti's Sport models are not available with AWD. even BMW doesn't put the sport suspension on X-drive cars (even if you get the sport package), they all use open diffs center and rear. without going that extra mile in design the system would not serve the mustang well. maybe on a v6 model they could put something simple together but for enthusiasts it would likely fall short of making the car better without significant expense.
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Weep I will, or hopefully I've been chucked into the clay by that time.
Probably by then Mustang will be all carbon fiber and AWD will be courtesy of four electric flat motors embedded in the wheels and the sound tube will be a tube connected to a speaker under the dash for ambient sound to go along with ambient lighting which will be tied together to give this super awesome AWD Mustang its retro vibe.
Or just as bad, it will be all ecoboost I4's with a 12 speed DSG connected to AWD with throttle, brakes and steering by wire with an active suspension. It will be hailed as the Mustang that offers all the driving excitement of Forza with the realism of Gran Turismo.
Probably by then Mustang will be all carbon fiber and AWD will be courtesy of four electric flat motors embedded in the wheels and the sound tube will be a tube connected to a speaker under the dash for ambient sound to go along with ambient lighting which will be tied together to give this super awesome AWD Mustang its retro vibe.
Or just as bad, it will be all ecoboost I4's with a 12 speed DSG connected to AWD with throttle, brakes and steering by wire with an active suspension. It will be hailed as the Mustang that offers all the driving excitement of Forza with the realism of Gran Turismo.
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Cylinder deactivation, including manual transmission models would be nice. The C7 Corvette has it. Not sure it would be worth the cost or produce any significant fuel economy increase. Any thoughts?
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I've heard it's not the easiest thing to pull off. Besides, the mustang doesn't really have an MPG problem. It still won't if the next mustang had less drag and weighs a little less. Then add the eventual DI and it should be class leading still.
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I suspect with the introduction of DI we won't see any meaningful increase in horsepower (per Ford) but torque might go up as a result and that will fatten up average power as the tach sweeps toward peak power.
Hopefully in the coming months as we near the 2015 MY details will start to emerge on the next Mustangs powertrain.