'13-14 Cluster into '10-12 car (with TrackApps) retrofit
5/24/14, 01:23 AM
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Dan, I can't thank you enough for all your help. I believe that we tried a lot of possible combinations and nothing worked. I thought we had it the one time the lights went out just before it finished programming the abs module, but no luck. I'm glad that the PCM flashed over and I don't need the black box. Now I need to get a tune update to use my car. Thank god for having two cars. I believe we are at a stand still until I get the new module LEX ordered to see if it truly is the module. I will post my results.
5/24/14, 06:13 AM
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Here is post where I got mine done. I did use 2013 VIN.
https://themustangsource.com/f803/13...14651/index41/
https://themustangsource.com/f803/13...14651/index41/
5/24/14, 06:17 AM
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Just spent 2 hours on phone .. and NO GO. We PMI with His VIN. PMI with 2013 VIN. Change VIN in PCM to match VIN used for 2013 PMI .. still software mismatch error.
So Jim and I were able to do PMI and it worked. We went from a 5.0 to a 5.0 .
Lex is having problems .. but he is going from 4.6 to 5.0.
BES is having problems .. but he is going from a 5.4 to a 5.8.
Not sure if changing engine has anything to do with it.
And I put a used ABS module in my car and it worked fine. Jim put a new ABS module in his car and it worked fine.
So Jim and I were able to do PMI and it worked. We went from a 5.0 to a 5.0 .
Lex is having problems .. but he is going from 4.6 to 5.0.
BES is having problems .. but he is going from a 5.4 to a 5.8.
Not sure if changing engine has anything to do with it.
And I put a used ABS module in my car and it worked fine. Jim put a new ABS module in his car and it worked fine.
BES was able to flash his PCM to 5.8, so that should have solved that problem. 3.7,5.0&5.8 ABS modules are all the same.
I am 100% sure that module is bad.
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5/24/14, 06:50 AM
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5/24/14, 11:49 AM
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My bad, I guess I misunderstood what he said. I remember LEX saying that he had a bad module, but got a replacement from the eBay seller he got it from. I Though hadn't tired it. I guess will know for sure once I get the new module and install it per your original post on page 41.
5/24/14, 12:05 PM
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My bad, I guess I misunderstood what he said. I remember LEX saying that he had a bad module, but got a replacement from the eBay seller he got it from. I Though hadn't tired it. I guess will know for sure once I get the new module and install it per your original post on page 41.
Well, will be an interesting session next week with zeroaviation...
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5/24/14, 12:10 PM
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Just spent 2 hours on phone .. and NO GO. We PMI with His VIN. PMI with 2013 VIN. Change VIN in PCM to match VIN used for 2013 PMI .. still software mismatch error.
So Jim and I were able to do PMI and it worked. We went from a 5.0 to a 5.0 .
Lex is having problems .. but he is going from 4.6 to 5.0.
BES is having problems .. but he is going from a 5.4 to a 5.8.
Not sure if changing engine has anything to do with it.
And I put a used ABS module in my car and it worked fine. Jim put a new ABS module in his car and it worked fine.
So Jim and I were able to do PMI and it worked. We went from a 5.0 to a 5.0 .
Lex is having problems .. but he is going from 4.6 to 5.0.
BES is having problems .. but he is going from a 5.4 to a 5.8.
Not sure if changing engine has anything to do with it.
And I put a used ABS module in my car and it worked fine. Jim put a new ABS module in his car and it worked fine.
I recovered BES's ABS module. It was indeed blanked, but was easy to recover.
BES, we can update your calibration for the engine difference.
I will be slow replying to anything this weekend.
Cheers,
-Matt
5/24/14, 12:35 PM
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I did a Module PMI for the ABS module. When IDS showed my VIN and asked if correct I replied no. I manually keyed in a 2013 car VIN .. same one I used for my AS-BUILT for the cluster install.
IDS then asked if I had the original module. I said NO. IDS then downloaded the calibration file from the internet. IDS flashed the ABS module and that was that.
IDS did give me a warning that the VIN in my PCM was incorrect ... but that was because I had manually typed in a different VIN for the ABS module.
IDS then asked if I had the original module. I said NO. IDS then downloaded the calibration file from the internet. IDS flashed the ABS module and that was that.
IDS did give me a warning that the VIN in my PCM was incorrect ... but that was because I had manually typed in a different VIN for the ABS module.
Maybe I also need to flash my IPC with the same VIN like you did. I know I haven't tired this yet. What is weird is that you got the same VIN mismatch message that I got, but your lights went away. This thing is like The DaVinci Code.....
5/24/14, 01:08 PM
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I'm trying to look into this further, just gotta find time....
I recovered BES's ABS module. It was indeed blanked, but was easy to recover.
BES, we can update your calibration for the engine difference.
I will be slow replying to anything this weekend.
Cheers,
-Matt
I recovered BES's ABS module. It was indeed blanked, but was easy to recover.
BES, we can update your calibration for the engine difference.
I will be slow replying to anything this weekend.
Cheers,
-Matt
5/24/14, 07:20 PM
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headlight switch - 10 available. new take offs, $25 each.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-2014-FORD-MUSTANG-ROUSH-HEADLAMP-SWITCH-FOG-LIGHT-OEM-/290983595528?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43bff94e08
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-2014-FORD-MUSTANG-ROUSH-HEADLAMP-SWITCH-FOG-LIGHT-OEM-/290983595528?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43bff94e08
5/24/14, 08:59 PM
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5/25/14, 07:57 PM
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5/25/14, 10:54 PM
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OK, update. It is going to work, but it is not plug and play.
Automatic owners of 2011/12 cars will need to get the 2013/14 sport shift ****. You do NOT need the entire shift box (luckily, I got mine for cheap anyway).
You will also need a male and female connector C307 to plug all the wires into. You will also need female pins to put into connector C175B on the PCM.
I have just ordered the male C307 connector. I will get it in about a week. Full write up in the other thread when I have it totally done next week.
This does add sport shift.
Automatic owners of 2011/12 cars will need to get the 2013/14 sport shift ****. You do NOT need the entire shift box (luckily, I got mine for cheap anyway).
You will also need a male and female connector C307 to plug all the wires into. You will also need female pins to put into connector C175B on the PCM.
I have just ordered the male C307 connector. I will get it in about a week. Full write up in the other thread when I have it totally done next week.
This does add sport shift.
Thanks to Lex for getting the the info on how to route wires from the cabin to the PCM. It wasn`t too bad, but pushing wires through those grommets are a real pain.
This is NOT plug and play. I recommend that automatic owners use the black box from Redline Chips instead. This way you don`t have to worry abut flashing the PCM and getting the DTCs everytime you manually put the car into gear.
All that is needed is the 2013 shifter. The shifter bezel is optional (I used it since I bought the entire shifter assembly anyway). You don`t need it, but you won`t be able to use 1, 2, 3 without throwing a DTC. I had to make a block and screw it into place to prevent selection of those gears manually using the shifter.
Next I needed the connectors for C307 both male and female. The current wires going into those connectors use larger pins, so I had to change them all out to smaller pins.
Once the wiring was routed to the PCM, I had to add pins to slots 23 and 24 in C175B (The bottom of the 3 connectors in the PCM). The third wire I tapped into the wire going to pin 56.
And voila - I have sport shift.
All done!!!
... unless Matt can get the Track Key to work.
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5/26/14, 01:47 PM
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I am finally done with this mod. The connector arrived last week, but I had little time to do this.
Thanks to Lex for getting the the info on how to route wires from the cabin to the PCM. It wasn`t too bad, but pushing wires through those grommets are a real pain.
This is NOT plug and play. I recommend that automatic owners use the black box from Redline Tuners instead. This way you don`t have to worry abut flashing the PCM and getting the DTCs everytime you manually put the car into gear.
All that is needed is the 2013 shifter. The shifter bezel is optional (I used it since I bought the entire shifter assembly anyway). You don`t need it, but you won`t be able to use 1, 2, 3 without throwing a DTC. I had to make a block and screw it into place to prevent selection of those gears manually using the shifter.
Next I needed the connectors for C307 both male and female. The current wires going into those connectors use larger pins, so I had to change them all out to smaller pins.
Once the wiring was routed to the PCM, I had to add pins to slots 23 and 24 in C175B (The bottom of the 3 connectors in the PCM). The third wire I tapped into the wire going to pin 56.
And voila - I have sport shift.
All done!!!
... unless Matt can get the Track Key to work.
Thanks to Lex for getting the the info on how to route wires from the cabin to the PCM. It wasn`t too bad, but pushing wires through those grommets are a real pain.
This is NOT plug and play. I recommend that automatic owners use the black box from Redline Tuners instead. This way you don`t have to worry abut flashing the PCM and getting the DTCs everytime you manually put the car into gear.
All that is needed is the 2013 shifter. The shifter bezel is optional (I used it since I bought the entire shifter assembly anyway). You don`t need it, but you won`t be able to use 1, 2, 3 without throwing a DTC. I had to make a block and screw it into place to prevent selection of those gears manually using the shifter.
Next I needed the connectors for C307 both male and female. The current wires going into those connectors use larger pins, so I had to change them all out to smaller pins.
Once the wiring was routed to the PCM, I had to add pins to slots 23 and 24 in C175B (The bottom of the 3 connectors in the PCM). The third wire I tapped into the wire going to pin 56.
And voila - I have sport shift.
All done!!!
... unless Matt can get the Track Key to work.
hopefully, soon 
LEXiiON
5/27/14, 10:12 AM
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I know the GT500's have it, but is there any way to add Launch Control to the Track App cluster? I'd rather not have to install this like this: http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotbox if I don't have to and just integrate everything in the cluster.