'13-14 Cluster into '10-12 car (with TrackApps) retrofit
#1621
Mach 1 Member
Couple of findings:
The Steering wheel position switch doesn't make a difference.
I doubt that the 2013 ABS module will work without EPAS. It relies on the steering wheel data from the CAN bus for stability control.
If I could only find out what the cause for that software error is. EPAS is fixable...
LEXiiON
The Steering wheel position switch doesn't make a difference.
I doubt that the 2013 ABS module will work without EPAS. It relies on the steering wheel data from the CAN bus for stability control.
If I could only find out what the cause for that software error is. EPAS is fixable...
LEXiiON
#1623
I'm trying to does this right now. I already installed the ABS module, no as built data has been loaded yet as I have no idea what to do (I have a VCM II). New modified switch has been installed, Black box has also been installed. I am at a stand still since I'm a little short on knowledge here. Thanks in advance for any help.
2013 GT500 cluster in a 2011 GT500 by the way.
2013 GT500 cluster in a 2011 GT500 by the way.
#1624
Mach 1 Member
I'm trying to does this right now. I already installed the ABS module, no as built data has been loaded yet as I have no idea what to do (I have a VCM II). New modified switch has been installed, Black box has also been installed. I am at a stand still since I'm a little short on knowledge here. Thanks in advance for any help.
2013 GT500 cluster in a 2011 GT500 by the way.
2013 GT500 cluster in a 2011 GT500 by the way.
#1625
I go to program module (in IDS) and hit the next arrow and there's nothing there as if there are no options or data base. I have what I assume to be the as built data from. That website that you replace the VIN of the vehicle how's as built you want. I've yet to run the wires from the location of the old INFO, SETUP and RESET location. To make the modified switch work that I got from Zero. I see people say input the as built data by hand and I don't get it.
Last edited by BlueEyedSnake; 5/13/14 at 08:00 PM.
#1626
Mach 1 Member
I go to program module (in IDS) and hit the next arrow and there's nothing there as if there are no options or data base. I have what I assume to be the as built data from. That website that you replace the VIN of the vehicle how's as built you want. I've yet to run the wires from the location of the old INFO, SETUP and RESET location. To make the modified switch work that I got from Zero. I see people say input the as built data by hand and I don't get it.
You should see a Menu under Module Programming. If not, make sure, you applied the correct patch. Under Windows 7 you need to run the patch as administrator.
LEXiiON
Last edited by LEXiiON; 5/13/14 at 08:53 PM.
#1627
Can you pm me what patch you used (just the name of it)? My Dvd came with a few patch options and I awesome I installed the right one. I was able to reprogram my keys to the new cluster. Obviously I have a flashing abs and traction control light flashing like crazy.
It's torture being so dame close. I can see LC (Lunch Control) and the little steering wheel on the cluster and I'm ready to start messing with the track apps and other options.
It's torture being so dame close. I can see LC (Lunch Control) and the little steering wheel on the cluster and I'm ready to start messing with the track apps and other options.
Last edited by BlueEyedSnake; 5/13/14 at 09:41 PM.
#1629
Mach 1 Member
#1631
Mach 1 Member
Ok. done some more reading on this. The 2011+ EPAS has the Steering wheel position switch build in and delivers the information through the HS-CAN.
Matt: Could it be, that the 2013 ABS module gets a signal on Pin 12/34/37 and spits that incompatible software message (as it shouldn't get anything on those PINs)?
I would think, if the steering wheel position is missing on the HS-CAN, that it would throw a fault, rather than incompatible software.
Thoughts?
LEXiiON
Matt: Could it be, that the 2013 ABS module gets a signal on Pin 12/34/37 and spits that incompatible software message (as it shouldn't get anything on those PINs)?
I would think, if the steering wheel position is missing on the HS-CAN, that it would throw a fault, rather than incompatible software.
Thoughts?
LEXiiON
Btw, i am really thinking about retrofitting the EPAS. The biggest difficulty is to find a proper FEAD belt, without the hydraulic power steering pump. Connections are very easy: Power/Ground from the battery (i think i read like 100A), HS+-CAN and power at run...
Once i found a proper length FEAD belt, i might do this. As i have the 2013 cluster, i can actually use it in the different modes.
LEXiiON
Once i found a proper length FEAD belt, i might do this. As i have the 2013 cluster, i can actually use it in the different modes.
LEXiiON
I'm trying to does this right now. I already installed the ABS module, no as built data has been loaded yet as I have no idea what to do (I have a VCM II). New modified switch has been installed, Black box has also been installed. I am at a stand still since I'm a little short on knowledge here. Thanks in advance for any help.
2013 GT500 cluster in a 2011 GT500 by the way.
2013 GT500 cluster in a 2011 GT500 by the way.
You will also have to load 2013 asbuilt into the SJB. As it triggers the trackapps menu.
#1632
Mach 1 Member
Yea, it would be a fault. I think the problem is the difference of firmware in the PCM and what the ABS module expects. Is the Incompatible software message throwing a CEL?
That would be super cool! We should swap you over to copperhead firmware too
Did you guys get this sorted out?
You will also have to load 2013 asbuilt into the SJB. As it triggers the trackapps menu.
That would be super cool! We should swap you over to copperhead firmware too
Did you guys get this sorted out?
You will also have to load 2013 asbuilt into the SJB. As it triggers the trackapps menu.
Does the Copperhead FW actually work on my PCM? That would be absolutely cool...
I am still working in the EPAS swap. I inquired on the necessary cables, and will measure the FEAD this weekend. I am wondering if the PS delete from Metco for a GT500 will actually bolt on my engine, too? That would eliminate the FEAD issue...
LEXiiON
#1633
Legacy TMS Member
#1634
I'll be at the shop in an hour or two, I still have to rewire the wires for the switch to work that you sent me which has been installed along with the 2013 ABS module, Black box and PATS is done. The car starts perfect and track apps shows up on the cluster, I just can't manipulate the menu cause my switch isn't wired yet. I've yet to load any as built data into anything. From talking to Lex, I might have loaded the wrong driver cause I have no menu under Program Modules in IDS. I might need to get with you on the phone later Zero if I'm still stuck if you have a free moment later today. I've taken plenty of picture to redo an install thread.
#1635
I'm using Jim010 directions to wire the switch from the other sticky thread and I don't have the same empty slots as he states. On the clock spring dashboard side slot #3 is taken on connector C2274A, but 1, 5, 7, 13 and 14 are open. On the steering wheel side #6 (connector C2274B) is open, but #2 (C2998) on the left steering wheel switch is taken (it runs into pin #9 on the clock spring steering wheel side). 1,3,4, 5, 9, and 10 are open on C2998.
Any ideas anyone? Thanks.
Any ideas anyone? Thanks.
#1636
Mach 1 Member
I'm using Jim010 directions to wire the switch from the other sticky thread and I don't have the same empty slots as he states. On the clock spring dashboard side slot #3 is taken on connector C2274A, but 1, 5, 7, 13 and 14 are open. On the steering wheel side #6 (connector C2274B) is open, but #2 (C2998) on the left steering wheel switch is taken (it runs into pin #9 on the clock spring steering wheel side). 1,3,4, 5, 9, and 10 are open on C2998.
Any ideas anyone? Thanks.
Any ideas anyone? Thanks.
LEXiiON
Last edited by LEXiiON; 5/14/14 at 09:11 PM.
#1639
#1640
I did the GT500 2014(Cobra logo ) into a GT 2014 as mentioned on a used one only PATS and Parameter Reset to get it to work.
The thing is the SVT logo does not stay on, I know it works using the launch control feature and engineering mode. An on the variable redline it stays red never yellow or off, looks like I will have to put some electrical tape from behind the face.
Also was wondering if anybody had the electrical diagrams for the 2013-14 GT500s since the clusters have an additional plug and was wondering what it is for.
The thing is the SVT logo does not stay on, I know it works using the launch control feature and engineering mode. An on the variable redline it stays red never yellow or off, looks like I will have to put some electrical tape from behind the face.
Also was wondering if anybody had the electrical diagrams for the 2013-14 GT500s since the clusters have an additional plug and was wondering what it is for.