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'13-14 Cluster into '10-12 car (with TrackApps) retrofit

Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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dmhines,

Do you have a part number handy for the 2013 cluster? I'm at work, but am in contact with United Radio. They will change the odometer reading, and will look into a couple other issues, but they want a part number.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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I'm at work too. Should be in parts book though.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:27 AM
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Part number:

DR3Z 10849 EA

Engineering number:

DR33 10849 EA

I'll be talking to their tech guy when he's off lunch.

They will change the odometer reading. You send in the cluster with proper documentation (Don't know what that is yet) and they charge $85.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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So you need to do that before your PATS relearn?
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Part number:

DR3Z 10849 EA
Thats for the 2014 cluster?
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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Part number is for a 2013.

So you need to do that before your PATS relearn?
That's what I hope to find out, as well as the track apps issues.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Part number is for a 2013.



That's what I hope to find out, as well as the track apps issues.
Ok, that number pulls up the following
3.7L 4V PFI V6 NA Gas, Instrmnt Clust-Unique Feat/Graphics, With MPH/KMH Speedometer
Required: 1
From: 02/27/12

Also IC to
5.0L-4V Dual Over Head Cam SEFI NA, (+)"USA";

Thanks!

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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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V6?

I used teh part number dmhines provided in an earlier post:

1ZVBP8CF6D5257592
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:53 AM
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That's an expensive part, new. I'll have to keep an eye out on the ebays to see if anything used comes up at a good price.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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I have another part number. Check these just in case. They may both be for Canadian cars:

DR3Z 10849 FA
Dr3Z 10849 DA

One of these is for a Boss, another is for a Canadian cluster.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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So. This would be easy to do if you had your own VCM IDS...

BCE Modules
Module 760-01-01 BCE Value 016A

This is all based on a previous post i wrote distinguishing vehicles to the ICM.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroaviation
So. This would be easy to do if you had your own VCM IDS...

BCE Modules
Module 760-01-01 BCE Value 016A

This is all based on a previous post i wrote distinguishing vehicles to the ICM.
Is that the Body Control Module? Are you saying that is the necessary change in the 2012 Module to enable track apps?

The 2012 value is:

760-01-01 056E
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jim010
I have another part number. Check these just in case. They may both be for Canadian cars:

DR3Z 10849 FA
Dr3Z 10849 DA

One of these is for a Boss, another is for a Canadian cluster.
Top One:
Order Direct From FCSD-IDO
MOD 5.0L-4V DOHC SEFI NA, Instrmnt Clust-Unique Feat/Graphics, With KMH/MPH Speedometer
Required: 1
From: 02/27/12

Bottom One:
Order Direct From FCSD-IDO
5.0L V8 32V DOHC EFI Modular, With KMH/MPH Speedometer
Required: 1
From: 02/27/12

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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dmhines
Is that the Body Control Module? Are you saying that is the necessary change in the 2012 Module to enable track apps?

The 2012 value is:

760-01-01 056E
760-01-01 is the address of the ICM, the second part is the moduleSetting value.

The problem is, will the BCE recognize this moduleSetting. Would you guys PM your Cal codes please? or stratagy ID's

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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroaviation
760-01-01 is the address of the ICM, the second part is the moduleSetting value.

The problem is, will the BCE recognize this moduleSetting. Would you guys PM your Cal codes please? or stratagy ID's
We are pulling the ICM out of a salvage vehicle so the value in the cluster will already be 016A.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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My Strategy is: FPDN1AT
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dmhines
We are pulling the ICM out of a salvage vehicle so the value in the cluster will already be 016A.
That value is not stored in the cluster, rather the BCE. The BCE needs to know what kind of modules to init.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Here is my tech guy responding:
Hi:

Best plan would be to book an appointment with one of the ladies in the cash office to ensure that I can get it in the shop ASAP. Tell them that I’ll probably need a couple of hours with it. You might want to just leave the old cluster plugged in but not fully installed just in case we run into problems. We will also require 2 keys to make it start, so bring them as well. If you have only one key, we will have to cut another (minimum of 2 keys). If your car has a remote starter we will need the transmitter to program it to the system. We have a menu price for electronic diagnosis ($155.95) that would cover the time to do the reset and programming of the keys. As I mentioned to you on Monday, I can’t vouch for whether all of the data will be available for the extra functions of the new cluster. We might end up having to reflash the PCM or other modules to make them match the cluster (make everything think it lives in a 2013 Mustang). If this is the case, some additional charges may apply. Please also bring the VIN for the car the cluster came from in case we have to obtain as-built data for anything. After you make an appointment, please drop me a quick note to let me know when it is coming so that I can try to free up some time.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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Wow .. if they could Flash the PCM to be a 2013 PCM ... that would fix everything .. Track Apps and Cruise Control!!!!
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhines
Wow .. if they could Flash the PCM to be a 2013 PCM ... that would fix everything .. Track Apps and Cruise Control!!!!
PCM & BCE, PCM so it will put the correct gauge traffic on the HSCAN and the BCE so the ICM can be initialized.
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