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Old 3/18/13, 05:16 PM
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I'm getting silly excuses frm him like the USPS outlet by him only handles letters ... UPS needs open credit cards to send items etc ...

Anyone live in San Jose area?
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I hope you find someone.. still getting silly excuses?
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Unfortunately, I am still getting silly excuses. He will be coming up here in May for a wedding, but the chances of him bringing it then are low as well.

Getting frustrated with him. He doesn't want to go to the post office because he'll be in line for 2 hours ... ... sure ...
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Assuming you get this to work in your 2012, would the wiring be the same for a 2011?
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Should be the same.
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I am begging - is there anyone in the San Jose area that can get this package from my lazy *** friend and send it up to me? I can reimburse through paypal.
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Originally Posted by jim010
Unfortunately, I am still getting silly excuses. He will be coming up here in May for a wedding, but the chances of him bringing it then are low as well.

Getting frustrated with him. He doesn't want to go to the post office because he'll be in line for 2 hours ... ... sure ...
Has he seen a Post Office lately? Those things are dead. Nobody in em..
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I am begging - is there anyone in the San Jose area that can get this package from my lazy *** friend and send it up to me? I can reimburse through paypal.
I'll ask another member here who lives in that area...
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Much appreciated. Things are getting rediculous.
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Much appreciated. Things are getting rediculous.
No problem. You and dmhines are two of my favorite modders
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FYI .. Looks like I have located a 2013 GT cluster as well and should have it soon ... Looks like I need to order the steering wheel switch now. Gonna make sure the cluster and track apps kind sorta do something before I buy the switch though.
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I wanna personally thank u guys for testing the waters on this. I hope it works.
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I wanna personally thank u guys for testing the waters on this. I hope it works.
Yeah I can't wait. Wish I had the free time to attempt it. But mine goes to getting my cobra back into one piece
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Thanks for the compliments.

I have rigged it so UPS will pick up my cluster. I should have it next week. Switch ordered as well.

10MustangGT - let me know when you get yours so I can tell you how to wire up the switch. Your Switches on the headlight switch module will become non-functional, likely.
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FYI .. I already have a tune in my car. Talked to the tuner .. they have never disabled PATS on a 2012 car .. but the option is available in the SCT software to do it. So .. once I get the cluster I will install a Tune with PATS disabled to see if car starts and Track Apps work ...
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FYI .. I already have a tune in my car. Talked to the tuner .. they have never disabled PATS on a 2012 car .. but the option is available in the SCT software to do it. So .. once I get the cluster I will install a Tune with PATS disabled to see if car starts and Track Apps work ...
Yup, PATS concerns me. Keep us posted. I'mnot bothering to talk to the service guys at the dealer until I have my cluster in hand.
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I hope this works guys
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Yup, PATS concerns me. Keep us posted. I'mnot bothering to talk to the service guys at the dealer until I have my cluster in hand.
What concerns me about the PATS is what exactly needs to be done to reset the cluster to match the keys and PCM. I hope the Ford technician can reset the PATS but leave the code in the Cluster from the 2013 car that it came out of.

I think I said earlier. When I put a 2012 GT500 Cluster in my 2010 GT I told them to reset the PATS at the dealer. But he ended up Loading my 2010 Build data into the 2012 Cluster. This basically turned it into a 2010 Cluster. I do not know if the was a prerequistive to reprogramming the PATS or if he just did it or the heck of it.

Maybe just turning off PATS in the tune will suffice .. However ... my understanding is with PATS off in the PCM via a tune .. it will illuminate the warning light on the cluster.

I'll order the tune tomorrow .. and should have the Cluster on Friday.

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Originally Posted by jim010
Thanks for the compliments.

I have rigged it so UPS will pick up my cluster. I should have it next week. Switch ordered as well.

10MustangGT - let me know when you get yours so I can tell you how to wire up the switch. Your Switches on the headlight switch module will become non-functional, likely.
how will the headlights be operated? and I won't be getting mine for a little while. funds are tight right now.. but once this works i will be attempting with a 2013 gt500 cluster!
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Originally Posted by 10MustangGT
how will the headlights be operated? and I won't be getting mine for a little while. funds are tight right now.. but once this works i will be attempting with a 2013 gt500 cluster!
Headlight wires wont be touched .. just the wires going to the reset/setup/info switches need to be moved to the steering wheel button.

If it all actually works and you want to make it look factory .. you could also order a 2013 Headlight switch without the setup buttons.
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Been reading all the PATS documentation I can find online .. seems like it should be fairly simple for the tech to reset PATS without reloading the build data into the 2013 cluster.

They would need to:

1) Perform the PATS RELEARN procedure - this syncs the Cluster with the PCM
2) Peform the KEY RELEARN procedure - this syncs your keys to the Cluster.

I don't see any need to do anything besides those two steps.


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