jim010

Yup. There are 2 plugs going to the headlight switch, as we will be cutting the wires to one only. Or we could leave them and just tap into the wires and see if our original switches do anything. But right now, I'm just looking to see if this cluster works before I even look at that.

The part number for the 2013 headlight switch module is 9R3Z 11654 CA, but you may want to double check this.

djstorm100

You would have to get the steering wheel and cluster from a 13 correct if this works?

jim010

No, you can buy just the left side switches on the steering wheel, not the entire wheel itself.

Steven

What kind of build data is stored in the cluster? It seems like there's some concern about this being reset.

I think in 2012+ cars there was also a feature to adjust steering feel. Would swapping the cluster bring this feature to a 2011 car?

dmhines

Well .. back in the old S197 days ... not all cars had Anti-Lock Brakes or Seat side airbags. Also V6 and V8 cars had different tach and speedo increments. So things like this had to be set in the Cluster so warning lights were not turned on incorrectly and needs were in right places.

I can tell you that when I put a 2012 Cluster in my 2010 it did not behave 100% properly. Perhaps that was due to my 2010 not having electronic adjustable steering and no MyKEY feature. So the dealer did have to reload my Build Data into the cluster and then everything work fine. Of course .. the MyKey feature and Adjustable Steering feature was no longer available in the settings display.

I doubt putting a 2012 Cluster in a 2011 car would add the feature .. but thats just a guess. You bring up a good point about 2011 not having adjustable steering .. since that may make it harder to get a 2013 cluster to work in a 2011 without reloading the build data.

As far as I know ... there is no difference in features between 2012 and 2013 so I see no reason to load 2012 build data into a 2013 cluster. And the biggest concern is that IF 2012 build data is loaded into the 2013 cluster .. will Track Apps be disabled??

I am concerned that the commands or signals used by the Steering wheel Buttons to control the Track Apps Display may not be recongnized on the 2012 Canbus ... that would really screw things up and make the swap impossible.

Also just talked to the Tuner ... I should have my PATS disabled tune by the end of today ...

jim010

There is one other thing I noticed, and I have to get the diagrams for it:

The steering feel on Shelbys is on a separate button along with damper setting and launch control. These buttons are located where our reset/info/set buttons are now.

It makes me wonder if steering feel setting is not through the cluster now?

jim010

Some screens that the cluster has.

Maybe someone with a 2013 could confirm if steering setting is done through the cluster?

conv_stang

Is the middle button even used? And on GT models. Do those buttons perform the same functions for like my color and things like that? Is it just the Shelby that gas the functions moved from the headlight buttons?

dmhines

According to both the Quick Reference Guide and the owners manual ... all the functions currently controlled via the setup buttons on the 2012 are controlled from Track Apps Display on the 2013

Adjustable Steering Feel:
Choose between standard, sport, and comfort
steering feel option modes. Select the desired
mode from the informaton displays screen using
the 5-way steering wheel controls. Sport steering
feel offers a slight manual rack and resistence feel,
comfort steering feel requires less effort to steer the
vehicle. Standard mode is used for normal driving.

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../13musom2e.pdf

jim010

That being the case, then I wonder why the Shelby has it as a separate button?

The middle button is damper adjustment, if the car is equiped with it.

I do not believe non Shelbys can be ordered with these features. This photo shows the damper adjustment.

dmhines

My Guess is since GT500 is race car .. putting those buttons there make steering and suspsension adjustments much quicker than cycling through the Track Apps display.

Steven

It's *possible* that 2011s might have the ability to adjust the steering but it was left off in production. I thought I remember reading about adjustable steering before the 2011s came out, and it turns out I did! Right here on the forums:

https://themustangsource.com/f726/steering-feel-484216/

I don't know if there's any truth to what was posted in that thread.

jim010

Would be interesting to see if steering feel can be 'retrofitted'.

Here's a better pic of the Shelby buttons.

conv_stang

Ahh ok. The one picture didn't have anything on the middle button. It must not have had the bilsteins

jim010

UPS wouldn't pick it up ... improper documentation. I need 3 copies of a commercial export document ...

dmhines, I think you will beat me on this, as I am not getting my cluster out of the States anytime soon.

I have the wiring for the switches figured out already, so if you need help just let me know.

In the mean time, I'm going to take an asprin and do this ...

conv_stang

What? This is so stupid. Illegals can get across the borders like its nothing. But you need a DNA sample to get some tail lights

dmhines

I'm in Florida this week so you had a chance to beat me. I'm thinking the seller requied a signature so I may not have mine until next Monday. Appreciate the help on the wiring. Hope we get that far!

jim010

Got the switch today.

Part number on the invoice is different than what I gave earlier: SW 6911

dmhines

Cool .. you are more confident than me its gonna work. I'm not gonna order switch until I see the display actually do something in my car ...

10MustangGT

When you gonna plug it in to see if the screen works?

And Jim - any ETA on when your cluster will arrive?