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Old 4/5/14, 08:57 PM
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What kind of MAP sensor are you using?..I have an autometer electronic boos/vac gauge. I was going to run it into live link like my fuel pressure gauge but autometer told me there was no way to create an analog equation because the voltage that represents 0 vac/boost will be different everytime you start the car due to ambient barometric pressure being different.




Unless your boost gauge has an actual analog output then I can see. But I was just grabbing the signal wire from my gauges which was .5-4.5 volt not an analog per say.
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Originally Posted by zeroaviation
Gonna be real cool


You know what else would be real cool??? MYCOLOR in the boss cluster lol lol
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A couple of observations:

Switch works perfectly (haven't tried the cruise yet)

I always get the OIL change message, resetting the Oil life does not help. Ideas?

After doing the PATS I get the Track Apps menu.
All menu functions work. However, the Accelometer doesn't show any movement
Select any Acceleration tests, it says test cancelled..

I will give the 2013 ABS module a try tomorrow.

Another observation: My tach is always red when the light is on. The halo is the color i selected, but once the engine runs, the tach is red.

Any ideas, apart from the Track Apps part?

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Originally Posted by ajpturbo
What kind of MAP sensor are you using?..I have an autometer electronic boos/vac gauge. I was going to run it into live link like my fuel pressure gauge but autometer told me there was no way to create an analog equation because the voltage that represents 0 vac/boost will be different everytime you start the car due to ambient barometric pressure being different.

Unless your boost gauge has an actual analog output then I can see. But I was just grabbing the signal wire from my gauges which was .5-4.5 volt not an analog per say.
I am using the aerofore GM MAP sensor. You have to calibrate it to ambient.. I am in Denver, so you have to calculate the Mile High and put it in the Gauge ... The inputs i am using for AFR and MAP are the analog inputs of the aeroforce interceptor gauge...

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Originally Posted by ajpturbo
You know what else would be real cool??? MYCOLOR in the boss cluster lol lol
We will get there eventually

EDIT....lol, the picture uploaded upside down... I cannot edit it out... So yea... Can a mod fix this?
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I think I have seen this cluster before
Old 4/6/14, 12:33 PM
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The accelerometer requires the 2013 abs module. Generally a red gauge indicates no data from PCM. I think gt500 redline changes depending on engine temp.
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Well, I remember that with the red gauges from your thread a while ago. But mine is only red, when the lights are on. Lights off, it is white.

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Yup. The 2011 gt500 cluster boost gauge did same thing in my 2010 gt.
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Oh ok. That means more work for Matt

I think I have to pay him a lot of adult beverages....

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Originally Posted by ajpturbo
You know what else would be real cool??? MYCOLOR in the boss cluster lol lol
I second this. If boss my color ends up not being a possibility, then Ill just get a premium cluster.
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Well, i can't get the 2013 ABS module to work.
I did the whole procedure twice, once with the VIN and PCM code from Dan and i also tried a 2013 GT500... Neither worked. During programming though, track Apps works, once it is done, everything is gone and both lights (ABS and Traction Control) are blinking. I have two DCT's: Yaw Sensor calibration missing and Incompatible Software Version (Control Module):


U201A:57-8B- (ABS) - Control Module Main Calibration Data - Invalid/Incompatible Software Component - Current (DTC) - Warning Lamp On,Fault is currently present, warning lamp on ((MIL), Wrench, Message Center, etc.).
C1A98:54-8B- (ABS) - Yaw Rate Sensor - Missing Calibration - Current (DTC) - Warning Lamp On,Fault is currently present, warning lamp on ((MIL), Wrench, Message Center, etc.).

Any ideas?

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Use your vin when doing pmi on abs. The software error is a vin mismatch between the module and PCM.
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Will try that...

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Ok that didn't work either. Here is what is think:

The 2013 ebay ABS module is somehow defective: I need like 10-15 tries to get the PMI successful. Most of the times, it comes back unsuccessful. With some luck I got the 2013 GT500 PCM and VIN (using my own for the PMI) but trying again with Dan's Codes didn't work.

After doing the first PMI with my VIN, still the same DTC's. I think somehow it did not get programmed (no wonder, with so many tries)

I will go ahead and order a new one from Tousley, unless someone tells me I shouldn't (but then please state reasons)

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I put a used abs module in my car. Even though I had error codes and the MILs lit up on my dash track apps still worked. Is your track apps working?
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No, track Apps is not working (only during DTC reads and or module Programming).. I just went through the steps for YAW sensor missing calibration and basically it says replace module (as all the other tests don't work either)...

The thing that bugs me, is that I have to try like 10 times to get it programmed... lastly i had no luck ... so i guess it is somehow defective

The seller will send me his other one to try. I will gladly accept that. Hopefully that one works...

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I have a 2012 Boss and have a 2013 boss track apps cluster installed and this tread is huge.

I have the ok switch
I have the cluster
I have the VCMII plugged in

What do I have to do to get this thing to work?
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You need the 2013 ABS module for TrackApps.
You need to do PATS first, and then wire up the switch.
You also need to flash your PCM to a 2013 Boss.

Details here: https://themustangsource.com/f803/re...luster-529167/
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