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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
Interesting. I put the cluster in, programmed PATS, the security light goes off after programming (not flashing like crazy, when i first put it in), but when i turn the key, nothing happens.
Put my old cluster back in, (flashes like crazy of course) program PATS (same procedure) car starts.
I am wondering what needs to be done tough, to get that cluster running?

LEXiiON
You must reset the PCM before the car will start. It does the final "link" between the PATS module in the cluster and the PCM.

The option is only avaliable after you have been granted security access. You do not have to redo the entire procedure.

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by zeroaviation
You must reset the PCM before the car will start. It does the final "link" between the PATS module in the cluster and the PCM.

The option is only avaliable after you have been granted security access. You do not have to redo the entire procedure.

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what option is that? reset parameters?

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
what option is that? reset parameters?

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I dont recal right off the top of my head. Its right after you get security access and before you program keys. Its in the first menu.

Maybe post up a screenie?

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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will do once i am back in my Garage... later today.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Considering how much work dmhines and zero (even me) have put into this so far, if you had to pay for the time put in, I think you'd be paying more than a few hundred bucks, unfortunately.
yeah, the point would be a marketable program that many Mustang owners would like to purchase and load.... NOT just the conversion crowd. You would have quite a bit more prospective customers than say a RAXIOM dash kit.... and that is in the market at 700 bucks and sells. Think of all the premium equipped track pack cars that are on the market that would jump at a tool that allows you to modify the existing screens.... digital speedo, multiple smaller gauges at one time, tpms screen, colors, custom logo, etc.

I have zero automotive programming experience, however spent quite a bit of time in a former life programming custom universal remotes and adjusting screens.... the higher end remotes all had interface programs typically windows based that allowed modification of how the screens interact and what content they contain. In a perfect world getting ahold of the software the someone wrote to make this track pack screen sequences would allow the same control...

I doubt anyone has access to the programing software. I assume some engineer had a rudimentary interface in the design phase that allowed them to tweak and change the screens, and now its just preloaded. But again this could be a marketable product that has legs..... every track pack car owner could plug in and load a custom setup adjusting the screens to his liking. That would be very marketable in the couple hundred dollar range.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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ALL on this thread who has done the conversion and HAS a VCM. Would anyone be willing to post me their old 10-12 Cluster for testing some ideas?

I wish someone was closer who has done the conversion.

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zandura99
I doubt anyone has access to the programing software. I assume some engineer had a rudimentary interface in the design phase that allowed them to tweak and change the screens, and now its just preloaded.
I have the software to do programming... However, you are correct about the source. (Interface code).

Maybe one of us could get Bruno Lombard to send it to us. Anyone know him?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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Zero,

if i get my new cluster working i can surely send you my old one (2010 Premium cluster with mycolor). Hopefully your reset option will do the trick. I know more tonight.

LEXiION

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Lex .. I haven't messed with the PATS stuff yet .. but I thought it was a two part process. You need to do a PMI or PATS Relearn process to sync the Cluster with the PCM. Once that is done then you program the keys. Or is all of that done in one step? Like I said .. I haven't messed with that stuff yet.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhines
Lex .. I haven't messed with the PATS stuff yet .. but I thought it was a two part process. You need to do a PMI or PATS Relearn process to sync the Cluster with the PCM. Once that is done then you program the keys. Or is all of that done in one step? Like I said .. I haven't messed with that stuff yet.
PATS is done first with the cluster. Then the Cluster and PCM are "linked" via a reset command.

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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That's the PATS menu screenshot. Which one is the menu for resetting the PCM?
parameter Reset?

And i tried my wife's Edge. Same issue when selecting Module Programming: Selection not available..

But i found the fix: If you are running Windows 7, you need to run that little tool as Administrator... Now it works

Thanks,

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Pretty sure you need parameter reset. That will do a full relearn.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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According to a cardone pdf it is the parameter reset, followed by a PCM KAM reset... Let's see ..

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
parameter reset, followed by a PCM KAM reset... Let's see ..

LEXiiON
Head on nail.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Worked !!! Jippieh:

Here are the steps:

1. Erase Keys
2. Parameter Reset

Well, between 1 and 2 you have to re-enter the PATS so another 10 minutes ...

Zero, send me a PM with your shipping address for the old cluster

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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Ok..interesting find:

After download the as-build, i have the ambient lightning color selection back in the cluster (including the my color selection for ambient lightning) Steering feel disappeared (fine with me) but also the Oil Life indicator is gone ... I assume because the 2 different engines calculate it different?

I always used that one ... Maybe the GT500 cluster will solve that problem..

All is good now Still looking for some $$ to do the 2013 GT500 cluster with LCD and blackbox... will take some time, as i also want to finish the Navigation retrofit first...just waiting for the additional parts from Tousley.

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Lex what cluster did you put in and what car do you have?
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:00 PM
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I have a 2010 GT Premium and put in a 2012 Boss Cluster.

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
I have a 2010 GT Premium and put in a 2012 Boss Cluster.

LEXiiON


And you have mycolor? Halo? You can change the halo and gauge colors independent of eachother?


Does the 2012 Boss cluster look like the 13' boss cluster?


WTF? This is pissing me off lol..I'm not understanding..


You should PM your vin, I'd like to try the as built for IPC for your car and see what that does in mine?


No mycolor in mine yet
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 09:11 PM
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I dont think he has mycolor for the cluster, but rather control over the ambient light.

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