MGW Shifter Feedback Thread!
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George, I was going to request lighter springs. I have actually hit 4th gear trying to shift to second, but that was my fault. But again 2nd to 3rd and 5th to 3rd are perfect.
I don't think you need to include lighter springs with the shifter but have then as an opion for those who feel the standard are too much.
I don't think you need to include lighter springs with the shifter but have then as an opion for those who feel the standard are too much.
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update guys,
i have had one person call and has a small issue. his wife drives his car and she finds the left to right springs a bit too heavy for daily driving.
i would like to get some feedback on this specific issue please.
i personally like the heavy spring to get it over to third fast and also to pop back to 4th from 5th so easily but i can see how it could be a bit extreme for long traffic hauls.
what do you guys think. i have already bought some weaker springs to sent this person but i am wondering if i should just set all the shifters with weaker springs or just send out the weaker springs if someone has issue with the current setup?
please give me your thoughts on this.
regards
george
i have had one person call and has a small issue. his wife drives his car and she finds the left to right springs a bit too heavy for daily driving.
i would like to get some feedback on this specific issue please.
i personally like the heavy spring to get it over to third fast and also to pop back to 4th from 5th so easily but i can see how it could be a bit extreme for long traffic hauls.
what do you guys think. i have already bought some weaker springs to sent this person but i am wondering if i should just set all the shifters with weaker springs or just send out the weaker springs if someone has issue with the current setup?
please give me your thoughts on this.
regards
george
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yes but not more than about 10 percent. the weaker springs are actually 50 perecnt less load rating.
BUT i think is brings up a good point that if someone only thinks they are just a LITTLE strong then they should leave them alone as they will get a little easier.
george
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If I'm not paying attention once in a while I'll get fourth instead of second, usually in parking lots where I'm not going fast. I have had it grind a couple of times trying to get into first at a stop, which I thought was weird. But overall I think the springs are fine, and the 2-3 shift is definitely much easier than before. I've even made the 1-2 shift without a problem.
I kinda wish the handle was a little lower, but I'm getting used to it being up a little higher than it was before.
I'm very very happy with this shifter, and don't ever see myself going back. Only thing I might do later is change the shift point, right now I'm 9 turns out, but I like where it is.
Thanks for a great product, George!
I kinda wish the handle was a little lower, but I'm getting used to it being up a little higher than it was before.
I'm very very happy with this shifter, and don't ever see myself going back. Only thing I might do later is change the shift point, right now I'm 9 turns out, but I like where it is.
Thanks for a great product, George!
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George,
This is very interesting. I have followed this issue with the other user, on the other board, and thought about it over the last two days since I installed....
I know that I, along with one of the other early installers, both commented in jest about missing second gear the first time we drove with this shifter. At the same time, we both commented how "mindless" it now is to hit third. I personally attribute both of these points to the heavy centering springs. Prior to this shifter, the first to second shift had next to no pressure when passing the neutral gate, due to the weak factory centering springs. Obviously, this is no longer the case. That being said, the question becomes, which is your preference? Yes, I can see where a daily driver, with long commutes, may become arm weary due to the heavy spring.......But at the end of the day, I believe the purpose of the shifter is being served with the current springs.....In the heat of battle, as it were.....
I would rather have to remember to keep pressure off the gate pulling from first to second gear, rather than having to worry about the "shot in the dark" throw from second to third, which is now accomplished without thought.
Personally, I am going to play around with pivoting the handle to the right a bit, to allow for a bit more leverage toward the driver. I may also toy with adjusting the height a bit, for the same reason. (I am still running with the shifter at the shortest possible throw....)
If you have the ability to offer "daily driver" springs, without too much impact on the manufacturing process, I believe this is just one more selling point adding to the total adjustability of this shifter....Would I change mine out?????
No way!!
Mike
This is very interesting. I have followed this issue with the other user, on the other board, and thought about it over the last two days since I installed....
I know that I, along with one of the other early installers, both commented in jest about missing second gear the first time we drove with this shifter. At the same time, we both commented how "mindless" it now is to hit third. I personally attribute both of these points to the heavy centering springs. Prior to this shifter, the first to second shift had next to no pressure when passing the neutral gate, due to the weak factory centering springs. Obviously, this is no longer the case. That being said, the question becomes, which is your preference? Yes, I can see where a daily driver, with long commutes, may become arm weary due to the heavy spring.......But at the end of the day, I believe the purpose of the shifter is being served with the current springs.....In the heat of battle, as it were.....
I would rather have to remember to keep pressure off the gate pulling from first to second gear, rather than having to worry about the "shot in the dark" throw from second to third, which is now accomplished without thought.Personally, I am going to play around with pivoting the handle to the right a bit, to allow for a bit more leverage toward the driver. I may also toy with adjusting the height a bit, for the same reason. (I am still running with the shifter at the shortest possible throw....)
If you have the ability to offer "daily driver" springs, without too much impact on the manufacturing process, I believe this is just one more selling point adding to the total adjustability of this shifter....Would I change mine out?????
No way!!Mike
Continuing on my feedback from the other day....
I did exactly what I had mentioned, and pivoted the handle more toward the center of the console, and I also lowered the shift **** a tad. Centering the **** a bit, for me anyway, definately helped with the leverage toward second gear. So there is no way I personally would change out the springs. I still cannot get over the second to third shift..
I had my wife try the throw from the passenger seat this morning...she does not drive the Pony very often, but when she rowed thru the gears, she said she thought that she had not yet hit the gear, when in fact she had. Keep in mind that I am still running at the shortest throw, and probably will not change it, unless I back off when the new bushings come in, which I am not too concerned with...LOL, the only thing I am still getting used to, is the fact the the shifter now starts about center of the shift boot, instead of up against the dash....When I get in, I am STILL trying to shift forward, when I am already there....
Thanks again, George...............WINNER!!!!!!
Mike
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Springs are fine. It took me the test shifts before start-up to learn the shift. I haven't missed second or third at all. Definitely like where the head of the shifter sits now. It's not as close to the radio as stock was. I am just a little worried about the leather boot getting worn, but I am not gonna complain if I have to buy a replacement.
Overall, I couldn't be happier. It's exactly what I was hoping for when I bought it.
I give it
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I was going to comment on this long ago, but wanted to drive the car a few days to make sure.
I have the shifter throw at 6 turns out, Gripper ball with new "metal showing" shift rod (is there a name for it?), and shifter rod at lowest setting.
I think the springs are too strong. I have to put just a little bit too much effort into putting it into second gear. I feel like before, with the Pro 5.0, I had a hard time getting into 5th, and now, I have to put a lot of pressure getting it into 2nd. I go into second gear a lot more than 5th in traffic,and I'd rather have that gear easy to find.
Plus, with my thicker after market leather shift boot, I am getting a little rubbing on the driver's side with the thick black arm, so having to really press the shifter hard to the left when going into 2nd gear is increasing the rubbing between the arm and the shifter.
Don't get me wrong, it is not hard or a lot of pressure, it's just more pressure than I think is warranted for a 1st to 2nd shift. I've hit 4th gear by accident about 5 times now since the install, really embarrassing. I would like a set of the weaker springs, myself.
Still love the shifter!
I have the shifter throw at 6 turns out, Gripper ball with new "metal showing" shift rod (is there a name for it?), and shifter rod at lowest setting.
I think the springs are too strong. I have to put just a little bit too much effort into putting it into second gear. I feel like before, with the Pro 5.0, I had a hard time getting into 5th, and now, I have to put a lot of pressure getting it into 2nd. I go into second gear a lot more than 5th in traffic,and I'd rather have that gear easy to find.
Plus, with my thicker after market leather shift boot, I am getting a little rubbing on the driver's side with the thick black arm, so having to really press the shifter hard to the left when going into 2nd gear is increasing the rubbing between the arm and the shifter.
Don't get me wrong, it is not hard or a lot of pressure, it's just more pressure than I think is warranted for a 1st to 2nd shift. I've hit 4th gear by accident about 5 times now since the install, really embarrassing. I would like a set of the weaker springs, myself.
Still love the shifter!
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George,
I haven't gotten mine because I'm waiting on the bushings. Just from reading through all the threads I think you may want to consider a "Driver" version and a "Racer" version. Use the lighter springs in the driver and delete the stops. Then market the "racer" version to the guys that really bang the gears (for a few more dollars) with both the stops and the heavy duty springs.
Frank
PS....If You haven't shipped yet can I get the lighter springs?
I haven't gotten mine because I'm waiting on the bushings. Just from reading through all the threads I think you may want to consider a "Driver" version and a "Racer" version. Use the lighter springs in the driver and delete the stops. Then market the "racer" version to the guys that really bang the gears (for a few more dollars) with both the stops and the heavy duty springs.
Frank
PS....If You haven't shipped yet can I get the lighter springs?
George, to me, spring tension is fine. However, I can see some folks looking for a spring tension somewhere between stock and where it is now.
To those waiting to order until the new bushings are available, it really isn't a big deal to swap them in. It's the same nut you have to remove to adjust the throw to access the 2 bushings.
To those waiting to order until the new bushings are available, it really isn't a big deal to swap them in. It's the same nut you have to remove to adjust the throw to access the 2 bushings.
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Bill, remember that you don't use your mustang as a daily driver. For those of us that do (or have othe family members drive the car) this could be a nuisance.
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Offical...
I have a Steeda Tri-Ax too... and I am very satisfied with it as well. But, I have ordered the MGW anyway. From the photos and videos that have been posted on the shifter, I know it's the best of the best.
I plan to sell my Steeda to some lucky local S-197 owner here in town for about $225 with a white Hurst ball and three custom shifter handles that I made my self. The reason I say lucky, my shifter only has about 3,000 miles on it. That almost new...
Bobby M.
I have a Steeda Tri-Ax too... and I am very satisfied with it as well. But, I have ordered the MGW anyway. From the photos and videos that have been posted on the shifter, I know it's the best of the best.
I plan to sell my Steeda to some lucky local S-197 owner here in town for about $225 with a white Hurst ball and three custom shifter handles that I made my self. The reason I say lucky, my shifter only has about 3,000 miles on it. That almost new...
Bobby M.
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Offical...
I have a Steeda Tri-Ax too... and I am very satisfied with it as well. But, I have ordered the MGW anyway. From the photos and videos that have been posted on the shifter, I know it's the best of the best.
I plan to sell my Steeda to some lucky local S-197 owner here in town for about $225 with a white Hurst ball and three custom shifter handles that I made my self. The reason I say lucky, my shifter only has about 3,000 miles on it. That almost new...
Bobby M.
I have a Steeda Tri-Ax too... and I am very satisfied with it as well. But, I have ordered the MGW anyway. From the photos and videos that have been posted on the shifter, I know it's the best of the best.
I plan to sell my Steeda to some lucky local S-197 owner here in town for about $225 with a white Hurst ball and three custom shifter handles that I made my self. The reason I say lucky, my shifter only has about 3,000 miles on it. That almost new...
Bobby M.