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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Badandy
I think Mongoose needs some lessons in tact.
What goes around comes around, maybe someday he'll figure that out...better hurry up though
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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well i might be wrong hear but the reason they use aluminum for the radiator and heat sinks as you state for certain electronics is to dissipate the heat quickly. Your radiator is trying to lose the heat not hold it. If you have a piece of steel and you have a piece of aluminum in the same spot the aluminum is going to be cooler as it doesnt retain the heat as well as the steel piece. Heat them both in an oven, an take them out at the same time, and the aluminum piece will be cooler way faster than the steel piece. Granted plastic is neither, but I dont think an alloy piece will be a problem. So you are correct in some ways it does conduct well but transfers that heat in the same fashion, dissipates it quickly.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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This might be asking for a lot but can someone make a version for guys with a intke spacer on.only difference is the location of the filterhole.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Yeah, I can do that. Can someone post a detailed close shot of the intake spacer? I can order on in pretty quickly, but until then I'd like to get a picture to start mocking it up. If anyone can, otherwise I'll just wait til it comes in, no biggie.

I'll let you know on price very soon, everyone is being real patient! Thanks!
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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I have a polished Granatelli, you think this will work with it? I'd probably be interested in the polished shield as I show my car.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sodaman
well i might be wrong hear but the reason they use aluminum for the radiator and heat sinks as you state for certain electronics is to dissipate the heat quickly. Your radiator is trying to lose the heat not hold it. If you have a piece of steel and you have a piece of aluminum in the same spot the aluminum is going to be cooler as it doesnt retain the heat as well as the steel piece. Heat them both in an oven, an take them out at the same time, and the aluminum piece will be cooler way faster than the steel piece. Granted plastic is neither, but I dont think an alloy piece will be a problem. So you are correct in some ways it does conduct well but transfers that heat in the same fashion, dissipates it quickly.

Very true, but I think that is mongoose's point. That the aluminum piece will absorb the heat and then quickly transfer it over towards the air filter instead of insulating the air filter from the engine heat. Neither the aluminum or plastic piece will actually shield any real heat, but black powdercoat would help the looks of an already messy looking engine compartment.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Great ill take pics tonight.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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How about one that works with the K&N intake???
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Update: Black and Polished JLT are set up. Pricing probably tonight! Black and Polished C&L should be set up by Monday. Pricing probably Tuesday!

The polished aluminum will be clear powdercoated in order to preserve finish!

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Nice, well I think the granatelli is exactly the same in dimensions as the c&l, so they should work for the gms too I am guessing.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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I thought I was being tactful as I never said he was full of s . I would think that when someone comes here trying to sell a product alleging it is better that the JLT or C&L shield you might be currently using and is called down on it with the facts people would be pleased with the information. Apparently this is not the case and forty years of metallurgical experience in aerospace means nothing. Some will be pleased to know I will just keep quiet in the future.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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no, if someone if full of it, then anyone has the right to call . This site is all about guys like mongoose who try to help more inexperienced members stay away from the throttle body spacers and tuneless intakes of the world. (no offense meant for people who have them) I don't think that anyone who wants to build a fully functional heat shield would bypass ceramic ect. and reach for the sheet metal. Like I said before, if it doesn't do any worse than the plastic one, I'll upgrade just for looks.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I will just keep quiet in the future.[/quote]

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongoose
I thought I was being tactful as I never said he was full of s
Oh gee add an sh and you did exactly that.

In this particular application your knowledge of the properties of aluminum mean nothing really. Your applying the principle based on things being static, or it certainly seems so. The environment in that particular area under your hood is anything but static. Show me a difference +- 3 degrees between shields at the filter while the car is in motion and I'll eat crow like a big boy
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongoose
I thought I was being tactful as I never said he was full of s .
No, but you did say he was full of "it"....... add the other 2 letters and they're about the same thing.......

Originally Posted by sook
no, if someone if full of it, then anyone has the right to call . This site is all about guys like mongoose who try to help more inexperienced members stay away from the throttle body spacers and tuneless intakes of the world. (no offense meant for people who have them) I don't think that anyone who wants to build a fully functional heat shield would bypass ceramic ect. and reach for the sheet metal. Like I said before, if it doesn't do any worse than the plastic one, I'll upgrade just for looks.



FWIW, I don't think Mongoose was too far outta line on this and I also think that TillmanSpeed handled it nicely.

EDIT: I was typing while you posted Tony......... you beat me to point! LOL.

Back to topic......
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Well when someone develops heat shields like these guys have then I'll buy one. Let's all play nice.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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did i mention im BROKE moder

So please keep the price down
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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I don't bicker Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I'm trying to keep the price of these heat shields as low as possible. Trust me, they're not going to be some $100 dollar shiny nothing. They'll be quality, great looking, functional, and well fitting.

I will have costs on these very soon. They're at the factory right now. I think that we will have prototypes and pictures for the weekend, if not we will see them early next week. Sorry for the delay fellas! I know I'm just as anxious as anyone else!!!

For the record, I never claimed to have a "better product" than JLT and C&L. As a matter of fact, you still have to buy their intake in order for these heat shields to work. I would never intentionally steer business from the friendly, reputable, dyno-proven services of Jay and Lee. They're heat shields work great. This one will just be cosmetically friendly and be quite sturdy (1/8" aluminum).

Thanks for everyone's input on this, your help is really appreciated!

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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I have a Tunable Induction CAI with the regular, flimsy plastic shield that is totally open on the bottom. With the car stationary the one time I monitored IAT last summer it rose to about 135 degrees. However as soon as I got the car moving IAT dropped to within 3-4 degrees of ambient. I suspect that all shields will behave like this. I had a 94 Supra Turbo (522 rwhp, thank you) that showed the same pattern of heat sink at idle. I rigged up a CAI that placed the filter completely out of the engine bay behind the bumper and the IAT at idle with the car at rest still got up to 135. Therefore, as Tillman says, the effect of his shield over others will likely be primarily cosmetic, which is fine assuming the price is reasonable. I certainly wouldn't mind a shield that looks a little more professional and sturdy.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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Chalk me up as being interested in this product as well.

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