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Old 6/18/14 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
460... One of my coffee trucks had the 460. Loved that engine. Even more than the V10. I think I read one of the reasons they discontinued the 460 was due to heads warping from heat.
Ah yeah 460, whoops. Soooo were looking at the carfax and it's showing that it had 347k miles up until 2012, then at it's last smog in 2013 it said it has the 102k. My dad is going to see if we can figure it out. It sure as heck doesn't look like it has 350k miles. It doesn't even look like it has 100k miles. The thing literally looks brand new. I'll keep y'all updated. It's originally from IL, just like my dad lol. If we get the mileage thing figured out, I think he's still going to go for it. Not like we're going to use it much. I just love how simple it is and how fricken clean it is! Still, it seems kinda fishy....
Old 6/18/14 | 01:31 PM
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Old 6/18/14 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
It was alright but something happened and was off a bit. I went by the recipe exactly but the cheese broke or something and it wasn't smooth and creamy, had a gritty texture to it like the cheeses had separated or something. It was definitely too much cheese and too much butter. It was like the butter and all the oil from the cheddar (especially that 2 cups on top at the end was way too much) broke up the creaminess of it.

Don't really know what to change to get it right, different blend of cheeses, less butter, or what, plus it takes over an hour and $15 worth of stuff to make it. Just not worth it for 3 of us, a box is more convenient.


I'd like to try these with some steaks sometime.

http://www.thecountrycook.net/2012/0...o-packets.html
I'm not sure what the problem was. I know my husband had that problem once when he made his oven baked mac n cheese and we don't know what happened there either. Could have been cheap cheese w/ too much water content in it, or maybe it wasn't fresh enough

I don't oven bake mine and I've never had a problem like that. Try my recipe....just once, try it.

1 lb box noodles (elbows, shells, rotini - doesn't matter)
1 lb block velveeta (cubed)
1 stick margarine or butter
1 can of (for your sake) cream of chicken soup (I always use cream of mushroom, but I've made it with the chicken before for a friend with a mushroom allergy and it was fine too)
1 1/2 - 2 cans of milk (just fill the empty soup can)

Just cook your noodles and drain them. I usually melt (slowly) all of the other ingredients together until most of the cheese is melted and then finish it off combined with the noodles on the stovetop (stirring frequently) until it's all melted. It's always creamy and I honestly get asked for the recipe every time I take it to a party.
Old 6/18/14 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
460... One of my coffee trucks had the 460. Loved that engine. Even more than the V10. I think I read one of the reasons they discontinued the 460 was due to heads warping from heat.
Truck was sold already
Old 6/18/14 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scothew
See, they just wanna hang out with ya!

At first I thought he was probably scared ****less when a bear sneaked up on him, then at the end when the camera panned I realized that he is a ****ing idiot for being there in the first place.
Old 6/18/14 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
It was alright but something happened and was off a bit. I went by the recipe exactly but the cheese broke or something and it wasn't smooth and creamy, had a gritty texture to it like the cheeses had separated or something. It was definitely too much cheese and too much butter. It was like the butter and all the oil from the cheddar (especially that 2 cups on top at the end was way too much) broke up the creaminess of it. Don't really know what to change to get it right, different blend of cheeses, less butter, or what, plus it takes over an hour and $15 worth of stuff to make it. Just not worth it for 3 of us, a box is more convenient. I'd like to try these with some steaks sometime. http://www.thecountrycook.net/2012/0...o-packets.html
You gotta test out cheddar. Some of them don't melt and just separate. Try the Kraft Cracker Barrel cheddar. Those seem to do well. There's a white one that I use a lot.
Old 6/18/14 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
At first I thought he was probably scared ****less when a bear sneaked up on him, then at the end when the camera panned I realized that he is a ****ing idiot for being there in the first place.
Snuck*
Old 6/18/14 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
460... One of my coffee trucks had the 460. Loved that engine. Even more than the V10. I think I read one of the reasons they discontinued the 460 was due to heads warping from heat.
Plus they just fail compared to the diesel. The torque and fuel mileage sux compared to diesel. If you need a F250, you don't need a gas motor.
Old 6/18/14 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Plus they just fail compared to the diesel. The torque and fuel mileage sux compared to diesel. If you need a F250, you don't need a gas motor.
Yeah the 7.3s are definitely the way to go. Just more expensive truck for truck. For what we would use it for, either is fine. Probably less than 1k a year.
Old 6/18/14 | 02:45 PM
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A duck duck here a duck duck there everywhere a duck duck!!! LMAO
Old 6/18/14 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
Snuck*
I used snuck as I would in a conversation but spell check flagged it so I went with sneaked.

Then I read this...

http://www.writersdigest.com/online-...uck-vs-sneaked
Old 6/18/14 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
You gotta test out cheddar. Some of them don't melt and just separate. Try the Kraft Cracker Barrel cheddar. Those seem to do well. There's a white one that I use a lot.
I used Kraft shredded cheddar on top and Kraft cheddar, colby, Monterrey jack shredded mix inside and I think what broke seemed to be the cheese inside.
Old 6/18/14 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
I used snuck as I would in a conversation but spell check flagged it so I went with sneaked. Then I read this... http://www.writersdigest.com/online-...uck-vs-sneaked
Lmao...you did all that before posting?
Old 6/18/14 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
I used snuck as I would in a conversation but spell check flagged it so I went with sneaked.
Yes I think both are appropriate nowadays, but "so I sneaked up on him" sounds more like correct english whereas "so I snuck up on him" sounds more like common usage english. Not sure how ebonics would use it though.
Old 6/18/14 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
I used Kraft shredded cheddar on top and Kraft cheddar, colby, Monterrey jack shredded mix inside and I think what broke seemed to be the cheese inside.
I made a quick recipe for clam chowder from and oyster stew recipe where I add butter to 1% milk (since I don't have cream around). But I wasn't paying attention and it got too hot and broke. So there were all these little lumps.
Old 6/18/14 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Plus they just fail compared to the diesel. The torque and fuel mileage sux compared to diesel. If you need a F250, you don't need a gas motor.
Mine went 100k no sweat and I ran the **** out of it. Screamed it with a full load coming up the pass all the time A/C blaring. Not one problem and zero downtime. Still running great when it was traded in. But we've been through this before haven't we Mr. ChevyLuvTruk... lol

As far as mileage I always thought this was interesting. My weekly mileage average (had to calculate it on my expense envelope) which included a couple of days of fully loaded, whether it was the 350, 460, or 414V10, was always in the 8's. So even though you would expect to get a bit better mileage out of the 350, fact is it had to work much harder than the 460.
Gawd I loved passing semi's in the 460. Coming up the pass with a full 2-4k# load behind a couple of trucks waiting for the passing lanes and then boom! It would downshift and the front end would leap! lolol Bye bye semi's...

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Old 6/18/14 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scothew
See, they just wanna hang out with ya! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVhrN2pI2X8">YouTube Link</a>
reminds me of this video


http://view.break.com/2623368
Old 6/18/14 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
I think I read one of the reasons they discontinued the 460 was due to heads warping from heat.
Thinking about it, while heads warping may have been an issue, I've also read how the V10 is a mod motor based off the 4.6. Just added 2 more cylinders with the 5.4 stroke & deck height, with everything else (spacing, etc.) pretty much the same. So maybe being able to use the mod motor setup for manufacturing had more to do with it than anything else for the heavy duty truck series.

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The 4.6 L (4601 cc, 281 CID) 90-degree V8 has been offered in 2-valve SOHC, 3-valve SOHC, and 4-valve DOHC versions. The engines were also offered with both aluminum and cast iron blocks, depending on application. The 4.6 L's bore and stroke are nearly square at 90.2 mm (3.552 in) and 90 mm (3.543 in), respectively. Deck height for the 4.6 block is 227 mm (8.937 in) and connecting rod length is 150.7 mm (5.933 in) center to center, giving the 4.6 L a 1.67:1 rod to stroke ratio. [5.933/3.543] Cylinder bore spacing measures 100 mm (3.937 in), which is common to all members of the Modular engine family.

The 5.4 L (5408 cc, 330 CID) V8 is a member of the Modular engine family first introduced in the redesigned 1997 Ford F-Series as a Triton V8. Bore diameter is 90.2 mm (3.552 in) and stroke is 105.8 mm (4.165 in), the increased stroke necessitated a taller 256 mm (10.079 in) engine block deck height. A 169.1 mm (6.658 in) connecting rod length is used to achieve a 1.60:1 rod to stroke ratio. [6.658/4.165]
(SOHC 2V first introduced in 1997F-Series, 260HP, 350#'; SOHC 3V wVCT first introduced in 2004F-150, 300HP, 365#')

The 6.8 L (6760 cc, 413 CID) SOHC V10 is another variation of the Modular family created for use in large trucks. Bore size is 90.2 mm (3.552 in) and stroke is 105.8 mm (4.165 in), identical to the 5.4 L V8. [1.60:1 rod to stroke ratio]
(SOHC 2V first introduced in 1997 FordE-Series, 305 HP, 420#'; SOHC 3V first introduced in 2005 Ford F-Series SuperDuty, 362HP, 457#')

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Old 6/18/14 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Was he fit to be tied? Did he have a conniption?
lol...I don't know but it ruined his two-week family vacation he had planned for two years.
Old 6/19/14 | 08:26 AM
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Can we please have another TMS get together?
We ought to. Mountains anyone?


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