The Boss is Back! 2012 Boss 302
8/15/10, 07:44 PM
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Just curious how much weight do you think Sync and HIDS would add?
8/15/10, 07:51 PM
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If Ford wanted to make the BOSS a stripped to the bone track car they wouldn't include AC or a radio, at least make it an option. I don't think that's their plan. I know they deleted 11 pounds of sound deadening material but that's to make it sound better, not lighter. How much would HIDs, a nav and Sirius radio add up to? MAYBE 20 pounds, that's the difference in weight between two averaged sized drivers..who cares?
8/15/10, 07:52 PM
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One door panel with the Shaker sub that comes with the Sync system weighs about ~15lbs, the amp has to be good for another 5-7, multiply that by 2. The HIDs add about 5-600$ to the price, I'd rather put that money into other performance bits..
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8/15/10, 08:01 PM
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Just to add to a few recent posts.
I've never ridden in a Boss. Got to spend time in HS in a '65 2+2 was it until my Bullitt. But what I've 'read' in magazines & numerous threads is the Boss was a pretty stiff street ride. It's focus was more on track performance compared to the other street focused cool editions and GT's.
So while I get having HID's & Active Alarm, loading it up with numerous GT amenities is not Ford's purpose for the Boss because of its legacy.
I've never ridden in a Boss. Got to spend time in HS in a '65 2+2 was it until my Bullitt. But what I've 'read' in magazines & numerous threads is the Boss was a pretty stiff street ride. It's focus was more on track performance compared to the other street focused cool editions and GT's.
So while I get having HID's & Active Alarm, loading it up with numerous GT amenities is not Ford's purpose for the Boss because of its legacy.
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8/15/10, 08:02 PM
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So maybe a total of 30 pounds? Not ground breaking really. All I'm saying is make it an option for those that still want a nicely optioned car.
8/15/10, 08:14 PM
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Boomers want luxury and performance, look at all the other brands, they have it. Now if you want a ***** to the walls version, then it's the LS, the volume version has some of the bells just not the whistles and after the frenzy dies down, I guarantee the option's will appear to keep the dollars rolling in.
If you want to relive/revisit your youth you are probably a retired Boomer and ready to burn those Bucks on toys of your youth. Ford, GM, Chrysler and other automakers know this and are putting out bait for those dollars and they (Boomers) are biting.
I want a daily driver that looks mean,, is mean and COMFORTABLE as well,,so give me the option's now instead of later>>>PLEASE.
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If you want to relive/revisit your youth you are probably a retired Boomer and ready to burn those Bucks on toys of your youth. Ford, GM, Chrysler and other automakers know this and are putting out bait for those dollars and they (Boomers) are biting.
I want a daily driver that looks mean,, is mean and COMFORTABLE as well,,so give me the option's now instead of later>>>PLEASE.
LQQK
8/15/10, 08:19 PM
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OK. But I don't think those paint schemes are for old baby boomer's.
The Chally's R/T old school colors/stripes maybe.
But Ford went a bit bizzarro with their offerings for the new '11 Boss.
[to entice the younger crowd that needs a freakin' GPS thang in their soon to be scratched up screen in their dadgum dash.
] 
I'm 54.
IMO
The Chally's R/T old school colors/stripes maybe.
But Ford went a bit bizzarro with their offerings for the new '11 Boss.
[to entice the younger crowd that needs a freakin' GPS thang in their soon to be scratched up screen in their dadgum dash.
] I'm 54.
IMO
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8/15/10, 08:22 PM
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8/15/10, 08:25 PM
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Ah, Retrofit overload!
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8/15/10, 08:34 PM
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Very well said. This car should NOT be optioned to the max unless it is an option that improves the performance of the car (speed, handling, etc.). I was looking to get a basic GT with the Brembos and that's it. I was worried the Boss would be loaded with cushy items like a Shelby, but Ford did right by the name and gave us this great car optioned for those of us concerned with speed and not showing off for the neighbors.
I have to be honest, I really don't get all the people asking for premium options on this car. I think you are missing the point of what the Boss is about. They went to the trouble of removing 11 lbs of sound deadening. Why would they undo that by allowing it to optioned with a bunch of electronics?
If you want a fast car that handles well and comes with all the goodies, just order a GT Premium with the track pack. If you want a SERIOUS track car, you shouldn't care about Sync and HID headlights.
I think the people that want all the bells and whistles on this car are just looking to buy it for the status or name, not for what it can do.
Just sayin'
If you want a fast car that handles well and comes with all the goodies, just order a GT Premium with the track pack. If you want a SERIOUS track car, you shouldn't care about Sync and HID headlights.
I think the people that want all the bells and whistles on this car are just looking to buy it for the status or name, not for what it can do.
Just sayin'
8/15/10, 08:36 PM
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OT: I contacted over 20 Dealers this weekend and only one agreed to sell me a volume BOSS for MSRP, they all are waiting to make MARKET ADJUSTMENTS (Judging how much they can GOUGE),,so, if you want one of the first allotment's, better get busy.
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8/15/10, 08:38 PM
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Very well said. This car should NOT be optioned to the max unless it is an option that improves the performance of the car (speed, handling, etc.). I was looking to get a basic GT with the Brembos and that's it. I was worried the Boss would be loaded with cushy items like a Shelby, but Ford did right by the name and gave us this great car optioned for those of us concerned with speed and not showing off for the neighbors.
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8/15/10, 08:41 PM
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Very well said. This car should NOT be optioned to the max unless it is an option that improves the performance of the car (speed, handling, etc.). I was looking to get a basic GT with the Brembos and that's it. I was worried the Boss would be loaded with cushy items like a Shelby, but Ford did right by the name and gave us this great car optioned for those of us concerned with speed and not showing off for the neighbors.
8/15/10, 08:47 PM
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To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
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8/15/10, 08:51 PM
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A LOT of money went into the performance side for the limited number that will be produced.
To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
8/15/10, 08:53 PM
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A LOT of money went into the performance side for the limited number that will be produced.
To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
8/15/10, 08:59 PM
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A LOT of money went into the performance side for the limited number that will be produced.
To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
To avoid an even higher price, then you can't have both.
Just get a Brembo GT and tweak it if you're coming from that side of the argument.
Believe me, I'm not a Boss buyer, I love my Bullitt's handling, ride comfort, and amenities (which are few compared to the GT).
But the Boss SE has been reserved (for years now...) for those that want a pretty hard race car that's street legal. That's what the Boss is, right?
8/15/10, 09:02 PM
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They are comparing this car to an M3..why would they skimp on amenities. I would be shocked if it wasn't offered with Snyc, nav and the rest of the goodies. It also makes the car more profitable for Ford.
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8/15/10, 09:03 PM
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But you're right in the aspect of people paying up for the smorsgasboard.
However, that dilutes the Boss' legacy just like a hookered up Bullitt with stripes & spoilers & hood scoops is NOT Steve McQueens movie car.
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