The Boss is Back! 2012 Boss 302
#321
Ford did a great job with this car. Can't wait to see what all the color combos look like and what options they are going to offer with it. The GT500 is too much for me to afford, so I hope Ford prices this one right above a GT. Now I have a year to talk the wife into it.
#322
I'd like a nice Boss package option for the GT that may cost about $5k. I don't need all of the racing components and performance, but rather just a little more than the GT offers now.
#323
Do any of you insiders know when us common folk will get details on price and production for this beauty? I think some of the questions most want answered are:
Cost of these babies?
Production #s
AND, if possible, whether we'll see a 2013 Boss (perhaps with the 1970 appearance).
Cost of these babies?
Production #s
AND, if possible, whether we'll see a 2013 Boss (perhaps with the 1970 appearance).
#324
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I presume those options were deemed too "cushy" for the racing heritage DNA they were after.
#325
I also agree. If Ford would offer a Mustang like this, but in the 40-42k range, then it would be a nice addition. The Cobra is too far overpriced compared to a GT.
I'd like a nice Boss package option for the GT that may cost about $5k. I don't need all of the racing components and performance, but rather just a little more than the GT offers now.
I'd like a nice Boss package option for the GT that may cost about $5k. I don't need all of the racing components and performance, but rather just a little more than the GT offers now.
Same goes with the Security package. The ultrasonic sensors and wheel locks should be standard fare on a limited production vehicle. I would want that for insurance to see that the car is being protected in some form. Sync would be nice too, and I think the only difference in the radio units is the addition of the microphone on the rear view mirror, and the additional button/wiring for the steering wheel.
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“With an exhaust system, we have to consider three constraints: legal noise restrictions; backpressure, which can rob power; and ground clearance,” explains Shawn Carney, Mustang NVH engineer. “Since the 2011 Mustang GT exhaust is already so free-flowing – it came in way under our backpressure targets – we already had excellent performance; we were able to tune the exhaust system for a unique sound. Combined with the rush of the intake, the exhaust system really envelops the driver in V8 sound.
Every Boss features a unique quad exhaust system: Two outlets exit in the rear similar to a standard Mustang GT. The other two outlets exit to either side of the exhaust crossover, sending exhaust through a set of metal discs that act as tuning elements before the pipes terminate just ahead of the rear wheel opening. Visually subtle, the side pipes flow very little exhaust but a lot of exhaust sound, providing a sonic experience unlike any other Mustang – and giving home tuners an additional avenue for modification.
Every Boss features a unique quad exhaust system: Two outlets exit in the rear similar to a standard Mustang GT. The other two outlets exit to either side of the exhaust crossover, sending exhaust through a set of metal discs that act as tuning elements before the pipes terminate just ahead of the rear wheel opening. Visually subtle, the side pipes flow very little exhaust but a lot of exhaust sound, providing a sonic experience unlike any other Mustang – and giving home tuners an additional avenue for modification.
#328
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I hope that Ford realizes that those options are in high demand and uptake on the GT, so in essence, the Boss would benefit from those as well. Like I said earlier, if they don't drive the weight up more than a few lbs., then I hope they'll give it a second thought. They did make HIDs standard on the GT500, and I'd personally love to see the HIDs standard on a GT premium, so anything that will slot above that should have them as well. Especially considering it won't have the driving lights of the base GT.
Same goes with the Security package. The ultrasonic sensors and wheel locks should be standard fare on a limited production vehicle. I would want that for insurance to see that the car is being protected in some form. Sync would be nice too, and I think the only difference in the radio units is the addition of the microphone on the rear view mirror, and the additional button/wiring for the steering wheel.
I assume the Ford marketing and sales people are aware of the current option uptake. These are some good questions to ask the Mustang engineers at Mustang Alley this coming weekend!
#329
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I'd like those options, and to those people who don't want 'em, don't order the car with 'em. Just give me the option to have those options and I'll be happy.
#330
I don't see options like the big stereo system happening - remember the objective of this SE. I'm sure Ford would prefer people that want things like HIDs and premium sound to spend more bucks on a Shelby.
There are plenty of Mustang options to get a well packaged setup, but I can see Ford wanting to keep the options list focused on strictly business - kicking *** on the track.
There are plenty of Mustang options to get a well packaged setup, but I can see Ford wanting to keep the options list focused on strictly business - kicking *** on the track.
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I have to be honest, I really don't get all the people asking for premium options on this car. I think you are missing the point of what the Boss is about. They went to the trouble of removing 11 lbs of sound deadening. Why would they undo that by allowing it to optioned with a bunch of electronics?
If you want a fast car that handles well and comes with all the goodies, just order a GT Premium with the track pack. If you want a SERIOUS track car, you shouldn't care about Sync and HID headlights.
I think the people that want all the bells and whistles on this car are just looking to buy it for the status or name, not for what it can do.
Just sayin'
If you want a fast car that handles well and comes with all the goodies, just order a GT Premium with the track pack. If you want a SERIOUS track car, you shouldn't care about Sync and HID headlights.
I think the people that want all the bells and whistles on this car are just looking to buy it for the status or name, not for what it can do.
Just sayin'
#332
I have to be honest, I really don't get all the people asking for premium options on this car. I think you are missing the point of what the Boss is about. They went to the trouble of removing 11 lbs of sound deadening. Why would they undo that by allowing it to optioned with a bunch of electronics?
If you want a fast car that handles well and comes with all the goodies, just order a GT Premium with the track pack. If you want a SERIOUS track car, you shouldn't care about Sync and HID headlights.
I think the people that want all the bells and whistles on this car are just looking to buy it for the status or name, not for what it can do.
Just sayin'
If you want a fast car that handles well and comes with all the goodies, just order a GT Premium with the track pack. If you want a SERIOUS track car, you shouldn't care about Sync and HID headlights.
I think the people that want all the bells and whistles on this car are just looking to buy it for the status or name, not for what it can do.
Just sayin'
#334
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I have to be honest, I really don't get all the people asking for premium options on this car. I think you are missing the point of what the Boss is about. They went to the trouble of removing 11 lbs of sound deadening. Why would they undo that by allowing it to optioned with a bunch of electronics?
I see the Boss Mustang as something you can drive back and forth to your performance driving event with A/C and some music so the commute is reasonable. The 2000 Cobra R, to which people have compared the Leguna Seca Boss Mustang, is a definite lesser level of "cush". The standard Boss is a step up in "cush" but still reflects a high performance driving purpose.
#335
There are also versions with the goodies. My buddies 06 STI has racing seats and NAV. Not sure why the BOSS cant have the same.. Personally I dont really care about the nav. But it would be nice to have Sync. But i'll save my final opinion for when I get to see one in person.
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I'm not sure why we cant have a car that performs at a high level at the track and still have many of the creature comforts found on other premium mustangs. Most cars in the GT's price bracket that are performance minded(EVO, STI etc) are still track inspired but have options like NAV HIDS etc.. Not sure why we have to receive less. For those that dont want it let them opt out of it. For those that do like me let us get them.
Those who want the components should have the option. What? just because I want sirius radio and a navigation means I can't have a serious track machine as well?
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#338
There are also versions with the goodies. My buddies 06 STI has racing seats and NAV. Not sure why the BOSS cant have the same.. Personally I dont really care about the nav. But it would be nice to have Sync. But i'll save my final opinion for when I get to see one in person.
Heck, A/C and stereo delete seems to be out the questions these days, but I'd still run to my Ford dealer to order a Boss if they offered the car sans these features. If anything, the non-LS Boss may be the most consumer friendly, street legal track car ever offered.
My current favorite car, the 95' M3 LTW was great, but that did delete the A/C and tunes.
Ford is not messing around these days with their home runs.
#339
As previously mentioned, if Ford engineers are scouring the car to save ANY pound of weight they can, you may be waiting a long time for the 'premium' Boss to come down the line. Fortunately, you can have a serious track machine in the GT/Track Pack, loaded to the hilt.
#340
??? There are plenty of versions of the Stang with the goodies too? With the cars you are mentioning, consider the boss as a competitor to the Genesis R-spec and Evo RS.
Heck, A/C and stereo delete seems to be out the questions these days, but I'd still run to my Ford dealer to order a Boss if they offered the car sans these features. If anything, the non-LS Boss may be the most consumer friendly, street legal track car ever offered.
My current favorite car, the 95' M3 LTW was great, but that did delete the A/C and tunes.
Ford is not messing around these days with their home runs.
Heck, A/C and stereo delete seems to be out the questions these days, but I'd still run to my Ford dealer to order a Boss if they offered the car sans these features. If anything, the non-LS Boss may be the most consumer friendly, street legal track car ever offered.
My current favorite car, the 95' M3 LTW was great, but that did delete the A/C and tunes.
Ford is not messing around these days with their home runs.