Originally Posted by Ice Hawk

I didn't specify which electronics and creature comforts. I meant them in general. I don't have an issue with HIDs and a good radio. When you want an 8" NAV screen, heated power seats, DVD capabilities, etc etc, then I draw the line. Good lights and sound. No biggie. After all, as you have stated, they did have them before. It's the additional extra items that don't need to be on a performance focused car. After all, they removed the rear seat, why would you need an 8" NAV screen?

Originally Posted by Jchandler

No i don't disillusion myself into thinking that a $500 no weight adding option cant be had on a track/street car. The original 69 Boss wasn't some stripped down shell of a car. Take a 5 minute google search and you will see the interior was relatively nice for the times.. It had leather and what looks like a fairly premium radio for the time. Not hard to give us now in 2010.

Show me one post where I have said anything about the exterior styling of the car and asking for tape and stripes. I ask for two things Sync and HIDS neither of which make the car any less of a performance vehicle.

Sounds like what you want is the low production LS and are being too cheap to buy one so you want to make the Base high volume one into a pure track car. Every Boss 302 that I've goggled has leather/premium radio.. So sounds like the legend you keep referring to has exactly what I want and you may want to re-define the history you are clinging to. They didn't seem to think in 69 that leather/radio sacrifice performance or made it into a tape/stripe package.

http://happycarz.com/pics_and_descp.php?id=829

http://www.showyourauto.com/am/listings/l0281.html

http://www.prestigemotorcar.com/inve...-cars/boss-302

http://www.mustangreview.com/1969boss302.htm

http://www.classiccarstudio.com/vehi...?vehicle_ID=88

http://www.oldride.com/classic_cars/257956.html

http://www.bcautos.com/bestofshow/19...tang_boss.html

So sorry if I don't get why having an option for leather/radio takes one single thing away from the performance of this car, when in the past it didn't. We just have to agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by Minicobra

I sure wish they change there mind on the color options for the standard model. Add Black or Sterling Gray, that would be great! The Orange is awesome though, and the others colors look good, but maybe a bit too flashy, I've always liked a stealthy looking car.

I wonder if the side stripes will be reflective, like the originals.

Originally Posted by Minicobra

This will be a daily driver for me, as was my 1970 Boss 302 . it will see about 5-6 track days a year. The majority of the time will be at legal speed limits on public streets. (maybe ) I think HID lights are a performance feature and not just fluff. I have a 2007 Mini Cooper Turbo, 2009 370Z, and the wife's 2009 IS350. All 3 of these cars have HID lights, Nav, Push button start, etc. When I drive a car without HID's I can really see the lack in night time performance. I've been use to these features for 3 years now, and on a brand new 2012, I almost expect them. A lot of people say just to get an optioned out GT, but I will on occasion take this to the track and I really would like the stronger internals and performance of the Boss.

Here is the thing, there are 2 boss mustangs, the standard and the Laguna Seca. Why would't they offer the creature comforts as an option on the standard model and make the LS the all out track car?
This makes more sense too me, give the standard model the options, make the LS the stripped down version.

Originally Posted by blksn8k

Not to be picky but I don't think any of the original Boss Mustangs were available with leather interiors.

http://classicponycars.com/special.html

Leather may have been available on Shelbys at the time, not sure about that one. One other interesting historical fact is that 1970 was the last year for the original run of Shelby Mustangs. The Boss Mustangs had become the top of the line models by 1970 and Ford had taken over Shelby production a couple of years earlier. As a matter of fact, the 1970 models were left over 69s that had new VIN numbers assigned so they could be sold as 70s. I wonder if history might repeat itself on this one too?

Originally Posted by Jchandler

Just like if people really need to save that 20 pounds can have them removed.. Point is why not let it be a factory option to have it if wanted? Believe me I'm not downplaying the car. I think it is awesome. Simple discussion on things we hope to see in the final production version/option lists.

Originally Posted by black_bullitt

Luckily, Ford did this for us, and they deserve thanks for doing so. Instead of loading the car down with creature comforts that don't necessarily jive with the intent of this particular model, Ford saved us the cost (both in weight and money). Why pay for the additional features if you're just going to rip them out anyway? How many times in recent history have enthusiasts asked for a stripped down Mustang with upgraded performance all around? We finally get it, and still there are complaints.

Seriously, I think some of you are missing the point of this model. Mabe you need to hold out for the new Mustang Grande? I hear it'll come with heated/cooled leather seats; power adjustable pedals, steering wheel, antenna, mirrors, seats; a glare/smudge free 10" touch screen nav system, and 10% discount cards to Starbucks and Sharper Image.

Originally Posted by Clino

And for those that still insist that the Boss should be available with luxury options, explain why a Track Pack GT wouldn't do?

Originally Posted by LQQK

Because "I" want a BOSS ENGINE and NAME PLATE to make my Neighbor's drool with envy>

I could, if I wanted to spend more money, get another M3 or a just announced 2011 Infiniti IPL G Coupe, which are performance orientated and full of creature comforts and trust me Ford is hoping to cut into that market.

I bet by the time we are able to actually sit down and order one of the two BOSS 302s, Ford will have tweaked the option availability list to include more DAILY DRIVER type options for the BOSS 302 and maybe the "Ultimate BOSS 302 LS" (From press release) will remain the same or offer just one front seat!

They did not make/resurrect the BOSS name plate strictly for the track and those on that side of the fence will have to get over it and come to the reality that this car is a compromise between both camps (Street & Track) and my side of the fence wants options and your side will have the choice of not ordering those options,,,I know the other side of the fence understands the definition of options.

LQQK

Originally Posted by trahsub

Does Ford need to tweak the options? Not at all. They are going to have absolutely no problem moving every one of these cars, and since this will not be a high volume model, they likely won't spend one ounce of effort to update what the car may come with. If there are dusty Boss stangs sitting on lots at below invoice prices b/c people didn't like their lack of options, I'll eat much crow as you send me :-)

They probably (guessing here) would have still been able to move 3,xxx copies without even A/C or a radio.

Originally Posted by blksn8k

Ok, so we are talking about a race car for the street, right? But if history repeats itself, and that seems to be Ford's goal here as well, then perhaps the next model year will repeat some of what happened with the original Boss cars. The 69 was not much more than a street legal race car. Even the valve sizes in the heads came straight from the track and the car had few options, especially appearance items. Then in 1970 Ford changed the appearance to match the rest of the 70 lineup as well as add the 70 Grabber colors and more options like the Shaker hood, rear window slats, chrome Magnum 500 wheels, etc. They also reduced the valve sizes to make the engine more streetable by improving the lower RPM torque output. One has to assume they made these changes to make the car appeal to a larger audience. My guess is they will follow a similar path with the 2013 Boss, assuming there is one. I really don't care about more creature comforts but if I could just get Grabber Blue with the 70 style stripes I would be at the dealer tomorrow. They are using both stripe styles (69 & 70) on the Grand Am cars now so why not give us both choices on the street cars?

Originally Posted by Jchandler

I see reading comprehension escapes you. I said let us have the option. Meaning on a base boss furs luxury items like hids, sync, and leather can be added by those who want them and left off for those who don't.

His model is meant to be a boss.. a bad *** street car just like it was in 69.. and even back then it had all the comforts. So why not now.

Originally Posted by black_bullitt

Luckily, Ford did this for us, and they deserve thanks for doing so. Instead of loading the car down with creature comforts that don't necessarily jive with the intent of this particular model, Ford saved us the cost (both in weight and money). Why pay for the additional features if you're just going to rip them out anyway? How many times in recent history have enthusiasts asked for a stripped down Mustang with upgraded performance all around? We finally get it, and still there are complaints.

Seriously, I think some of you are missing the point of this model. Mabe you need to hold out for the new Mustang Grande? I hear it'll come with heated/cooled leather seats; power adjustable pedals, steering wheel, antenna, mirrors, seats; a glare/smudge free 10" touch screen nav system, and 10% discount cards to Starbucks and Sharper Image.

Originally Posted by PTRocks

Here's a pic from Monterey this weekend that you will like. Credit to Autoblog

Originally Posted by PTRocks

Here's a pic from Monterey this weekend that you will like. Credit to Autoblog