Over on SVT Performance one of the Mod Motor gurus, Fourcam330 seems to agree with me, that is the Aussie Ford suff is P/R BS:

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For further reading: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...=352984&page=3

 

Thanks for the link. I stand corrected, another victim of P/R BS. (should have know better )

What I take from that tread seems to back up my "no 400HP 4.6L Mustang from Ford".

 

After reading and analyzing all I could find, I agree with you, there will not be a 400 HP, 4.6L, N/A smog legal engine sold in a Mustang.

There may be a 400 HP / 4.6 engine, but it will be a race engine (not streetl).

I'm still scratching my head as to why Ford won't dust off the Terminator engine and put it in a S-197 SE to give us a nice range of 300 - 400 - 500 HP models.

 

Probably because it would result in a "cheaper", easier to mod, better-performing alternative to the GT500. Given the right parts, the Terminator 4.6 can equal the GT500's 5.4 although the 5.4's true limits have yet to be reached. The S/C 4.6 currently has more aftermarket support as well. Less weight on the nose and a slightly lower center of gravity also help the performance cause. Lastly, the lack of "Shelby" badging would result in lower pricing overall.

 

I suspect the Tier 2 Emission Standards and the California Emission standards forced the new 3V heads with the CMCVs. With money tight Ford won't spend the money to even attempt to certify the 4V engine for such a limited production car.

If they want more HP for a Mustang SE it's much easier to get more HP using an existing design that adds CIs. (5.4L)

 

People also have to realize the the hoops a primary Auto manufacturer has to jump through to get an engine certified.

Basically they start by having to pass the emissions test. Then the car is driven for 50,000 miles with no service other than topping off the fluids, and tested again. Now they can service the engine (fluids) and it's driven another 50,000 miles and tested again. Fail in anyway and you get to start all over.

Once they pass that test and the engine is certified for production then cars are pulled from the line at times and tested. Also cars that have been in actual service are tested at times. This where the recalls and ECU service update reflashes come from.

Secondary manufactures like Saleen, Roush or Shelby only have to have the car pass the first emissions test (like CARB certification for aftermarket parts).

Oh and I should add that the EPA emissions certification test is nothing at all like the simple tailpipe test many states have.

 

Actually the Shelby Gt went thru the full EPA tests and Carb, we are the manufacturer of record. we had to do this to go thru all the dealers


Amy

 

Less we all forget My Hats off to you people for taking the chance and Doing all this, Good thing it's a viable comodity !

 

Getting EPA approval for the stickers and badges must have been one trying endeavor.

 

Uh-oh...here we go again.

 

You guys better hope what I am telling you is wrong, but a little birdie from Ford told me that there will be minimal H.P. gain in this car.
We are talking 10hp! I doubt we see anything over a 25hp gain on this car. Sorry!

Lets pray that we get a 350-400hp Mach1 or Boss in the future.

 

I just love the chemistry between amyb and 1 BULLITT, I think maybe they need to get a room and work this out the old fashion way....

 

I think most of the people here already figured this out a month or two ago. I remember the last word was that the DOHC 4.6 was originally planned for the Bullitt, but later canceled and replaced by a slightly tuned 3V 4.6.

 

Some people will do anything to keep the Bullitt section alive.

Can't blame them, really. It could have been SUCH a great car.

Coulda...woulda...shoulda...

Oh well, at least we have the GT500KR now. We'll all be able to run out and get one of those instead.

 

Ford will probably stay with Bullitt tradition and make the 08 Bullitt have only 5 more HP than a regular GT.

Of course you'll be able to buy a Bullit for what the ADM the dealers will want on the KR.

 

It's a shame that Ford won't build more of the GT500s and KRs. Most of us can't afford an old musclecar anymore, since prices have reached up close to six figures for most anything. And now the new car game is getting out of reach as well.

I finally was able to buy a Marauder a few months ago, for half of the sticker price when it was new. Fortunately, it had been well cared for and was low miles. I guess I may have to hope for the same if I want a Bullitt or a KR.

Shame, Ford, shame

 

Now, refresh my memory, what makes a Marauder any different from a black Crown Vic squad car?

 

DOHC!

 

302 hp, leather seats, chrome 18" wheels, console shifter, fog lamps, and no puke in the carpets.

 

why thank you for the advice, my feeling is, I nolonger respond as this person is sad and not worthy of even a direct response.... How sad it must be to own soimething you should enjoy and can't. Things at Shelby are terrific, The overall consumers seem happy and we will strive to continue to get the consumer what they want. Petty people are just....well, sad, and I feel sorry for them.

You know, I always say that people don't have to be nice, but they should be able to ask and receive questions in a respectful and adult manner.

Amy