I have some news for you.

1.) The 5.0 is still scheduled for Feb.2010 - (2011MY)
2.) As reported by other members on this board, the 5.0 will not be GDI. The GDI will come later.
3.) HP should be comparable to the Challenger & Camaro. (I will have more details for you later -estimated HP numbers etc.)
4.) Special Edition Mustang for 2011MY. Either a Mach1 or Boss. Maybe even something new? (I will have more details for you later).
5.) There will eventually be a GDI 4 cylinder Mustang. But, Ford is running behind schedule(of course). Maybe a SVO type Mustang for 2012MY?
6.) The 50th Anniversary Mustang is still on schedule. Imagine that?!

 

Is Ford hoping that looks alone will sell the 2010 Mustang? How many will by a 2010 GT with a 4.6 when they know a 5.0 will be out a year later? Would it not have made sense to just come out with the 5.0 in 2010? Will this not give the Challenger and Camaro better sales as some do not want to wait to 2011 to get 400HP? It all does not make much sense as you think the 5.0 would have been ready in 2010.

 

I've thought about this,and while angry ... I'd rather they get the engine right and not put a rush on it.

Also, WE know there's a 5.0....
... but the general population doesn't.

It will split the rush for the car between the 'gotta haves' and the 'i'll waits' on looks vs power

 

Im not complaining as it will give me more time to pay down my 2008 GT. By 2010 i should be ready to pull the trigger if it looks and performs as good as it should.
Not sure if i could afford an SS even if i wanted one as many are saying i will be in the mid 30's with all the goodies. If it was my only car as i have a 30K+ family crossover also.

 

I'll look at the Camaro SS, but I am pretty sure that I am sticking with the Mustang. I'll wait for the 2011MY.
I was up at Woodward, and I can tell you that I am already sick of the Challenger. Nice car, but not for me.
I'll stick with my Ford's!!

 

I'm not in a hurry for getting one till 2012, since by that time I'll be able to afford one. So Ford, take your time and make it RIGHT the first time. I know you can do it.

 

In a perfect world the engine would have been ready in time for 2010, but the program was started late when Ford realized the Mustang-sized BOSS/Hurricane variant would be too heavy and relatively underpowered. So, given that I'd prefer they wait on the engine until it's right.

The reasons to launch the car sooner rather than later are:
1. 2010 is a 5-year redesign cycle, pretty much the max for a respectable car line these days. pushing the whole car to 2011 would seriously endanger sales, especially with the new competition.
2. The 4.6 can be and will be bumped up a tad, that and a massive interior/exterior update will give enough selling points to make Mustang attractive at its lower price point.

 

It also means the Mustang will remain in the public eye, via the motoring press, two years running. Porsche do a similar thing with the 911. Seems every 3 months there's a different varient and the magazines carry out regular road tests.

 

Its a shame for people like me, who are waiting for something in the 350-400hp range. But new looks and an interior upgrade will get people interested.

 

Dang, I wanted the 5.0 out in 2010 so badly. Oh well, Ill be waiting till 2011...

maybe they should ecoboost the 4.6 to hold us over

 

IIRC, the upcoming Camaro SS, won't be much smaller than the Challenger. As the 2010 SS, will weigh in at 3930 LBS.

In addition, the SS will weigh only 210 LBS lighter than the Challenger.

But most of all, we already know the Camaro SS, will be far more expensive than the 2010 Mustang. As Bob Lutz has already confirmed, that Camaro will be marketed exclusively as an upscale/premium coupe.

That being said, it does seem to appear as though the Camaro SS, will also face similar problems competing with the 2010 Mustang, due to it's large size as well !

 

As I posted on another thread:

 

The SS is 3860 lbs. The refreshed Mustang will certainly gain a bit of weight. I'd bet the weight differnce is roughly 250 lbs when all is said and done between the too. I wouldn't doubt that we see a bump in MSRP for the 2010 Stang.

 

The curb weight for the Camaro SS w/manual transmission, is 3860 Lbs. However the curb weight w/automatic transmission, is 3913 Lbs. Therefore, my calculations were off by only 17 Lbs.

As for the refreshed Mustang gaining a bit of weight, I totally disagree.

As both the current S-197 suspension and 4.6L 3v, are carrying over.

Other than the new quarter panels (hips) any weight increase would just result as being marginal anyhow. Either way, the refreshed 2010 Mustang, will still weigh significantly less than the Camaro SS.

As for seeing a bump in MSRP for the 2010 Stang. Chances are, there will indeed be a price increase. However when it's all said and done, the price for a base 2010 GT. Will still remain under 30k, whereas the Camaro SS, will more than likely end at well above 30k !

 

How is the new Mustang not going to gain weight? You are getting more content, which definetly adds weight. If you look at the shot of the bottom of the refreshed Stang, Ford really didn't do anything different. Ford is still using the heavy 2 piece driveshaft. You can save nearly 30 lbs by going to an aftermarket aluminum DS. I wouldn't doubt that the curb weight comes in between 3,550 to 3600lbs.

 

Other than adding hips to the quarter panels, where else are you really getting more content ? In other words, just by adding hips. Surely isn't going to add such a significant amount of weight.

Heck even at 3,550 Lbs. The 2010 Mustang GT, would still weigh significantly less than the 3,860 Lb. Camaro SS at 310 Lbs.

 

This is confusing to me. Ford is releasing a brand new high tech engine, but not using exisiting technology that it current has. Given gas prices, direct injection is a no brainer in that it increases economy and gives a slight bump in hp.

 

Size or weight? Size of the Camaro will be comparable to the Stang, perhaps an inch wider and longer. Weight will be a bit more, but who cares? The SS will sport 400 HP, and the Stang GT isn't going to get that until 2011, if it gets it at all (only vaporware at this point).

Stock vs. stock, in '09 and '10 the Camaro SS will OWN the Mustang GT on the road. It's that simple. Be prepared to be badly embarrassed at stoplights.

 

that's funny, I don't see any specs released on the 2010 mustang yet? So how could you come to such a definitive conclusion?

 

Just as Shawn stated, we currently do not have specs released for the 2010 Mustang yet. So how can anybody come to any conclusion, as to what the 2010 will weigh.

That being said, all were really doing right now, is merely speculating and nothing more. In the meantime, until we get official confirmation straight from Ford. None of us are able to come to any such conclusion.

I do however agree, that until the Mustang gets the 400HP 5.0L 4v in 2011MY. There's no denying the fact, the current 09 Stang, will be outperformed by the Camaro SS.

As for the 2010 Mustang, that all depends on whether or not the current 4.6 3v gets a bump in HP, and then determines by how much it may get !