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Old 1/16/12, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

are you crazy? I mean out of your head??? because we have roads that you can do over 115mph(not legal at all what so ever. thats jail time) ford should make your car able to do so?

you car is a sporty car but ti has its limits. Just because you have close to the same hp as the OLD v8 doesnt mean the car was designed to do the same. also the people at ford would be fools to build a v6 car that is in the same ball park as the GT car.
Its not ball park to the new V8's ,5.0 but compared to previous year v8 such as 2010 its home plate to first base. That's how Ford markets its new v6. The track numbers of the v6 speaks for itself. The v6 holds its own and they market and advertise it as such. How many track racers are going 145 mph in there v8? Why does Ford build the v8 to go 145. What obligation to they have to do this? Why does Ford build a car to go that fast. Most people aren't track racing so why have the car go 145?. Why not just 80 mph have it go?
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Originally Posted by cinque35
Ford should at least upgrade the driveshaft on models with W rated tires.. Pony pkg, MCA, Performance pkg...

they did start advertising the 11 v6 as more of a high performance car like the commercial w the sterling gray v6 with the Roush front

edit: or at least make it an option.. an after mkt v6 driveshaft costs over $500
I agree with this 100%.
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Its not ball park to the new V8's ,5.0 but compared to previous year v8 such as 2010 its home plate to first base. That's how Ford markets its new v6. The track numbers of the v6 speaks for itself. The v6 holds its own and they market and advertise it as such. How many track racers are going 145 mph in there v8? Why does Ford build the v8 to go 145. What obligation to they have to do this? Why does Ford build a car to go that fast. Most people aren't track racing so why have the car go 145?. Why not just 80 mph have it go?
most people that buy a V8 like the feel of the torq or they like to think at some point they will be at the track.
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

most people that buy a V8 like the feel of the torq or they like to think at some point they will be at the track.
I completely understand. Nothing wrong with that. If I went to race track or road coarse I'm sure I would of purchased the 5.0. I just don't race. The V8 is awesome, it just doesn't suit my wants.
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Well I appreciate your insight on this. If in fact the v6 driveshafts are weaker and not able to withstand speeds such as 135, then shame on Ford for not warning customers this. Shame of Ford for indicating and advertising to me my 2011 v6 stang is capable of going 160. My 2011 stang came with a stock factor speed odometer that reads 160. When I looked at the car, test drove it the speed odometer read 160. Ford is advertising this vehicle and giving off the impression this 305 hp vehicle is capable of going 160 mph. This is not the case and there speed odometer should not advertise such. It gives people a false sense of what the car is not really capable of doing.

One reason consumers buy a sports car is to drive fast especially if you got a stang. Ford really needs to change on how there marketing and advertising this car.
Warning them of what exactly? the v6 driveshaft is built for fuel economy and there is a factory rev limiter in place so that you don't see 135mph +.
what exactly does ford have to warn their customers about?
Buying a v6 and thinking you have a nascar is the problem.

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I do love that number. Its a sweet ride. I can see where the frustration of fellow stang owners would be bothered about the new 2011 plus v6. The owners of older Gt models whose cars used to be the big kid on the block with its 280,290, 300 hp. Here comes the v6 that's just as fast, 7 grand cheaper, way better fuel mileage, lower car insurance. I know for many GT stang owners the v6 are not real sports cars. There the sports car wanna be.
whaaaat!!!?? lmao lmao you think the new v6 can keep up with an 05-10 GT?
It's not about the horsepower budd, it's about the torque and the sound of V8 muscle.

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Maybe, giving that both drivers are equal driving skill. Assuming this, yeah the 10 Gt will pull ahead about half a car length. Maybe a 2 tenth second difference if lucky. The 2011 will hang right there.

Take the old v6 to the old Gt. The best driver in the world couldn't come close to the Gt. Times have changed my friend. New breed of v6. As far as sound, Rubbish. I have a Flowmaster exhaust system and they sound just as loud as any stock older v8. Easy fix for sound.
LOUD and GOOD are two waaaaaaay different things grasshopper.

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Warning them of what exactly? the v6 driveshaft is built for fuel economy and there is a factory rev limiter in place so that you don't see 135mph +.
what exactly does ford have to warn their customers about?
Buying a v6 and thinking you have a nascar is the problem.

whaaaat!!!?? lmao lmao you think the new v6 can keep up with an 05-10 GT?
It's not about the horsepower budd, it's about the torque and the sound of V8 muscle.
I don't think a stock 2011v6 can keep right with a 2010 stock GT, I know so. The numbers don't lie. Yes the 2010 Gt has 325 torque. Yes it has more. Its not that much more than the 11 v6, 280. Given the drivers are equal, no gears were missed, the 2010 would be around 2 tenths second faster. I would say that's keeping up with the 10 Gt.

Motor Trend had the 2010 Gt running 0-60 in 4.9, 13.6 1/4 mile. Look it up on you tube. Motor Trend has the 11 v6 running 0-60 in 5.1, 13.7 1/4 mile. You tube, look it up boss. Like I said, 2 tenths second difference . That's keeping up with it my man. For 7 grand more and 2 tenths faster, respectfully keep your 2005 to 2010 Gt's, I'll roll with the 2011 V6. You ain't smoking no 11 stang with your stock 2005 to 2010 Gt. Not happening friend. I'm sorry Ford made the 2011 v6 so darn awesome and ego's got hurt but a new breed of stang was born. The older Gt's are just not the bully on the block anymore. There sweet, don't get me wrong but the older Gt's are just not the big boy they once were. They have to share the spot light with the new v6.

Respectfully, the 2005 to 2010 Gt's will be known and remembered for years down the road as the v8's that were just as fast as the 11 plus sixers. As for the sound of the Gt's, that V8 rumble does sound sweet. Nothing like it. You can't get that from a stock v6. But of course the 2011 v6 comes with true duel exhaust and with my Flowmaster exhaust system for around $ 400 dollars they sound great. My Flowmaster exhaust sounds as loud and good as any stock v8 exhaust system.

Respectfully, just deal with the awesomeness of the 2011 plus sixer.

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

Warning them of what exactly? the v6 driveshaft is built for fuel economy and there is a factory rev limiter in place so that you don't see 135mph +.
what exactly does ford have to warn their customers about?
Buying a v6 and thinking you have a nascar is the problem.

whaaaat!!!?? lmao lmao you think the new v6 can keep up with an 05-10 GT?
It's not about the horsepower budd, it's about the torque and the sound of V8 muscle.

LOUD and GOOD are two waaaaaaay different things grasshopper.
My Flowmaster system sounds awesome. If your telling me Flowmaster exhaust systems do not sound right on a stang then you have lost your mind. Flowmasters sound the best on stangs and there sick. It sounds amazing my young padawan

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both are great cars, period.

now lets stop fighting and start loving.

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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
My Flowmaster system sounds awesome. If your telling me Flowmaster exhaust systems do not sound right on a stang then you have lost your mind. Flowmasters sound the best on stangs and there sick. It sounds amazing my young padawan
Who said flowmasters don't sound right on a stang, you were talking about how loud your v6 is acting like it sounds like a v8.
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both are great cars, period.

now lets stop fighting and start loving.

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I agree both are great.
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Originally Posted by fdjizm

LOUD and GOOD are two waaaaaaay different things grasshopper.
The exhaust does sound loud and GOOD. The Flowmaster exhaust system sounds just as good on the 11 v6 as any stock v8. In my opinion.
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The exhaust does sound loud and GOOD. The Flowmaster exhaust system sounds just as good on the 11 v6 as any stock v8. In my opinion.
And you sure are entitled to your opinion sir, just like your mileage opinion and your "just as fast" opinion
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And you sure are entitled to your opinion sir, just like your mileage opinion and your "just as fast" opinion
The just as fast is not my opinion. That's the facts on the numbers of the vehicles. Those are the track numbers. Not my opinion. Just the facts from Motor Trend, Road and Track, test track numbers. Just facts
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The just as fast is not my opinion. That's the facts on the numbers of the vehicles. Those are the track numbers. Not my opinion. Just the facts from Motor Trend, Road and Track, test track numbers. Just facts
Oh you mean magazines? lol
Well see in real life, (where I'm from) that doesn't quite add up.
I've run a best of 13.375 3 years ago in my bone stock 08 mustang GT.
I know of a bunch of other owners who have from 13.35 to 13.5 in their bone stock mustang GT's, that's from the real world.

But magazines are cool

Just to spare your feelings I won't tell you what the 11' v6's are running at englishtown lately.
Oh and I also won't post about my daily work commute in which I get 26-28mpg in my gaz guzzling v8.
How's it working out with the magazines?
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both are great cars, period.

now lets stop fighting and start loving.

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Oh you mean magazines? lol
Well see in real life, (where I'm from) that doesn't quite add up.
I've run a best of 13.375 3 years ago in my bone stock 08 mustang GT.
I know of a bunch of other owners who have from 13.35 to 13.5 in their bone stock mustang GT's, that's from the real world.

But magazines are cool

Just to spare your feelings I won't tell you what the 11' v6's are running at englishtown lately.
Oh and I also won't post about my daily work commute in which I get 26-28mpg in my gaz guzzling v8.
How's it working out with the magazines?
Real life, non Magizine, either way the 2011 plus v6 can easily hang with the older Gt models. If the 10 Gt's stock are running high 13.8, 13.9 1/4 the 2011 v6's are running 14, 14.1 1/4 all day. Once again were not talking any significant real world numbers. They ain't smoking the 11 plus sixers. For 6 to 7 grand more, I would expect a lot more than a few tenths or so. Respectfully, if it ain't a 11 plus 5.0 the 2005 to 2010 Gt's are just a v6 with two extra cylinders and thousands more to read GT on the side.

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Real life, non Magizine, either way the 2011 plus v6 can easily hang with the older Gt models. If the 10 Gt's stock are running high 13.8, 13.9 1/4 the 2011 v6's are running 14, 14.1 1/4 all day. Once again were not talking any significant real world numbers. They ain't smoking the 11 plus sixers. For 6 to 7 grand more, I would expect a lot more than a few tenths or so. Respectfully, if it ain't a 11 plus 5.0 the 2005 to 2010 Gt's are just a v6 with two extra cylinders and thousands more to read GT on the side.
Why don't you put down the magazine and stop trying to pull the most horrible time card on the 4.6 v8's?


^how did that happen???
You're delusional, I got no problem with the v6 but you're speaking from magazines and your opinion vs my REAL WORLD fact.
Where do you see stock 2010 gt's running those horrible times?
Because I've yet to see a stock 2011 v6 break 14.4 at englishtown.
Again with your examples where are you getting these scenarios from?
Are you just saying that or is that what is really happening in real life that you see?
Are you getting all this from magazines, because I just posted real life stuff.

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5.1 is fast for the 6, maybe with a manual coupe, optional 3.31 gears, professional driver, and optimal weather conditions.
magazine times vary wildly.. here's Motor Trend on the '12 3.7 auto/conv from 4 months ago,

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...6_convertible/

"At the track, the Mustang hit 60 mph in 6.5 seconds, and completed the quarter mile in 14.8 seconds at 95.3 mph. Both are impressive numbers. Braking from 60 was a decent 124 feet."

edit: ^ that's 4.0 territory



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Originally Posted by fdjizm

Why don't you put down the magazine and stop trying to pull the most horrible time card on the 4.6 v8's?

^how did that happen???
You're delusional, I got no problem with the v6 but you're speaking from magazines and your opinion vs my REAL WORLD fact.
Where do you see stock 2010 gt's running those horrible times?
Because I've yet to see a stock 2011 v6 break 14.4 at englishtown.
Bro, I don't know where englishtown is, but watch you tube. You got stock 2011 v6 with 2.73 gears running 14 flat to 14.1 1/4 mile. So now the auto Magizine's are garbage. Perhaps they lie about the numbers. Motor Trend has the 2010 Gt 0-60 4.9 seconds, 13.6 or so 1/4 mile. That's not accurate. 2011 v6 0-60 5.1 seconds 13.9 1/4 mile. That's not accurate test. The fact is yes the older Gt's are faster than the new 11 stang if everything is equal. Equal driver skill and all. The 11plus stang will hang right with the older Gt's within two tenths of second or so. If the 2010 Gt has bad driver then 11 sixer is going to beat it.
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