2011 Kona Blue

Yeah, im aware. And the point is. The newer cars are awesome. The v6 stang is no longer the slow wanna be sports car. Just two years ago the 2010 Gt was the true sports car. One year later the v6 was pumping almost identical track numbers as the big v8 for thousands less, better fuel mpg and lower car insurance. Ford did an awesome job. Heck the v6 family car Fusion is pumping 263 hp. That's awesome.

texastboneking

And now the 5.0 is pumping the power.

cinque35

The 2011 v6 has the same carryover driveshaft from the '05-'10 4L v6

Weather or not this is a fail on Ford's part is up to each person to decide.

Facts are: 4.0 > 3.7

Engine: 210hp, 240 Torque > 305hp, 290 Torque
Transmission: 5 spd > 6 spd
Driveshaft: same 3.5" single (floating stamped two piece) shaft
Rear Axle: 7.5" std diff > 8.8" locking
Exhaust: Single > Dual
Front Brakes: 11.5" > 12.4"
Speedometer: 120 mph > 160 mph

^ so what's wrong with this picture?

as for this, I don't think so, more like 1986 and prior, this was settled 2 yrs ago when it came out, while it's a great all-around car it can't match the torque of the V8







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cpotts13

This.

jskup1

I guess having 168MPH speed rating tires on a GT whose top speed is 160 is also false advertising.

This reminds me of the person who sued McDonalds because their coffee was hot and it didn't say that on the cup.

texastboneking

2011 Kona Blue

Agreed, the 5.0 is a beast. Awesome amount of power but the v6 is no longer the wanna be. The 2020 v6 could have 400 hp and you v8 guys would still say the v6 is not a sports car.

cinque35

i would def consider a twin turbo v6.. wouldn't be surprised to see one in '15

2011 Kona Blue

The 2010 v8 had 325 torque. The 2011 has 280. Were talking maybe one to two tenths of a second difference in time. That's nothing for the thousands more. The times are almost near identical for the new v6 compared to the 10 Gt. The v6 is sheer awesome for the money and power you get. Its just as much a sports car as the 2010 and previous years were. I think ego's got hurt for previous year Gt owners when Ford upped the hp by 85 just shy of the big brother Gt 315.

Ford should go back and give the v6 a 120 stock speedodometer if the vehicle is not capable of driving safely at faster speeds. Ford changed the speedodometer because it wants to market and advertise the v6 more of a true sports car like the Gt.

texastboneking

No egos hurt. You still lose in a race and you don't have the awesome sound.

2011 Kona Blue

Maybe, giving that both drivers are equal driving skill. Assuming this, yeah the 10 Gt will pull ahead about half a car length. Maybe a 2 tenth second difference if lucky. The 2011 will hang right there.

Take the old v6 to the old Gt. The best driver in the world couldn't come close to the Gt. Times have changed my friend. New breed of v6. As far as sound, Rubbish. I have a Flowmaster exhaust system and they sound just as loud as any stock older v8. Easy fix for sound.

FromZto5

ummm... my Civic has a speedo that reads 120 or 140 (can't remember which). You think that means I take it to mean my Civic should be able to go 120???

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My Civic feels pretentious going 80 or 90..... I'd never take it to the speeds my speedo limits show. Does that mean EVERY car manufacturer is falsely advertising their speed limits?????

............. I think not. Some common sense goes a long way here.

Rollin

Kona, you remind me of all those guys who just can never admit they're wrong. I read the thread on the other Mustang site where you keep calling the speedometer a form of advertising. Please stop. It makes you seem uneducated. The speedometer is not advertising. It may be 'indicating' the car can go 160 but it's not advertising ****. Advertising would be to say the car gets 25 mpg. There is no advertisement that says the car can go as fast as what the speedometer indicates.

As for the V6 Mustang, I agree with you. Ford did a great job and to have a V6 car with 300plus horsepower is awesome. I can understand why you're proud to drive it. They're cool cars. However, to say it will hang with the 5.0 with a couple of minor tweaks is ridiculous.

cinque35

half a car length, that's funny, i've never seen one come within 2 or 3

kylerohde

K, now you're just trolling for arguments. There isn't a V6 in the world outside of maybe a GT-R or NSX that sounds as good as a V8. And the 3.7 Ford isn't one of those.

It is, however, a **** good motor and the reason I bought a '11 instead of a '10 or older. When my previous car was in the process of being totaled, I had a '12 V6 rental car and two weeks with it convinced me that I couldn't go buy an older GT that would be about equal in speed but get far worse mileage than this new V6, so I had to spend more than I'd planned and get an '11 GT.

Not true - remember that this forum is the minority, not the majority of Mustang owners. Case in point, I bet the split of manuals/autos on here is almost even or even in favor of the manuals, while in the real world it's more like 20/80 manuals to autos. The majority of Mustangs never get a mod beyond some crappy black taillights or those silly stick-on fake brake vents.

2011 Kona Blue

No offense but its a civic. Few care about doing 130 in a civic. Many people want to do 130 plus in a stang. Its a sports car. Respectfully, don't compare a civic to an american iconic pony car.

2011 Kona Blue

Respectfully, you must not get out much or raced a 2011 v6.

cinque35

yes but not stock

Flagstang

why are you fighting such a simple idea??? also stop saying people are down on the v6 mustang.. its simply not true. You are using that to keep this thread off topic. Its simply not what a v6 was made to do.

lets make this simple and look at it from ford point of view. They build the V6 to get 31 mpg and added in enough hp to keep up with the camaro. That means they built the V6 to get great mpg not be a top end car. Thats why they made the car unable to go past a set speed. Ford doesnt support people using tuners and modding things on the cars that why it cancels your warranty.


Ford however understands people would be using the GT car for track and other things so they built the car to handle different things. They did not build it to get 31 mpg. You crying about what you are crying about is like the GT guys cry about not getting 31 mpg.

2011 Kona Blue

Respectfully, I must agree that we disagree in this. It is a form of marketing and advertisement by Ford. Ford markets the v6 as a sports car which in my opinion is a great one. They market it as such and giving the stock speedodometer a average stang owner would easily think there 305 hp stang can handle 135. The older v6 stangs had a speedodometer that read 120, therefore consumers didn't think they could reach 135 or 140. Ford didn't market the v6 stang the way they have been marketing the new v6. Ford wants to give customers the allure that the v6 can go well over 100 plus with no issues. Even if not 160 then 135 to 140 shouldn't be an issue.