2011 v6 Driveshafts
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Recently I had seen a video on u-tube and read an article of a 2011 v6 stang have its driveshaft blown up when hitting speeds of around 135 mph. There has been debate on the actual cause of this driveshaft to fail as such. Based upon the 135 mph the owner must of had the vehicle tuned therefore the speed governor was removed.
What was the real reason this driveshaft failed. I hear some claim the driveshaft failed because Ford uses a much weaker driveshaft that is not capable of traveling such speeds which is why Ford placed a speed governor on the v6 models.
Others claim this is bull$hit and Ford does not use a weaker driveshaft in its v6 models. Some claim the 11 v6 driveshaft can easily handle 135 plus and that incident was a rare, freak incident with other underlying factors. Factors that had nothing to do with a weaker driveshaft. If the driveshaft can withhold safe speeds of 135 plus then why did Ford place a speed governor on a car they gave 305 hp?
Can anyone give it to me straight?
What was the real reason this driveshaft failed. I hear some claim the driveshaft failed because Ford uses a much weaker driveshaft that is not capable of traveling such speeds which is why Ford placed a speed governor on the v6 models.
Others claim this is bull$hit and Ford does not use a weaker driveshaft in its v6 models. Some claim the 11 v6 driveshaft can easily handle 135 plus and that incident was a rare, freak incident with other underlying factors. Factors that had nothing to do with a weaker driveshaft. If the driveshaft can withhold safe speeds of 135 plus then why did Ford place a speed governor on a car they gave 305 hp?
Can anyone give it to me straight?
Last edited by 2011 Kona Blue; 1/15/12 at 10:41 PM.
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Nope, nobody has the straight answer yet.
The video you saw was a copy of the original that the car owner took off youtube.
It did not have a full tune, just removal of the speed limit function by way of the tuner.
The V6 cars definitely do have a lesser driveshaft than the GT. GT's use a shaft with a carrier support bearing in the center, basically the GT has two short shafts allowing a higher speed. The V6 has no center support, just a sliding spline in the center.
I believe this makes for much more shaft flex and a much lower critical speed.
The Driveshaft Shop is working on a very strong CV style shaft using an aluminum tube but it's not out yet and when it is will be pretty pricey.
The video you saw was a copy of the original that the car owner took off youtube.
It did not have a full tune, just removal of the speed limit function by way of the tuner.
The V6 cars definitely do have a lesser driveshaft than the GT. GT's use a shaft with a carrier support bearing in the center, basically the GT has two short shafts allowing a higher speed. The V6 has no center support, just a sliding spline in the center.
I believe this makes for much more shaft flex and a much lower critical speed.
The Driveshaft Shop is working on a very strong CV style shaft using an aluminum tube but it's not out yet and when it is will be pretty pricey.
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Nope, nobody has the straight answer yet.
The video you saw was a copy of the original that the car owner took off youtube.
It did not have a full tune, just removal of the speed limit function by way of the tuner.
The V6 cars definitely do have a lesser driveshaft than the GT. GT's use a shaft with a carrier support bearing in the center, basically the GT has two short shafts allowing a higher speed. The V6 has no center support, just a sliding spline in the center.
I believe this makes for much more shaft flex and a much lower critical speed.
The Driveshaft Shop is working on a very strong CV style shaft using an aluminum tube but it's not out yet and when it is will be pretty pricey.
The video you saw was a copy of the original that the car owner took off youtube.
It did not have a full tune, just removal of the speed limit function by way of the tuner.
The V6 cars definitely do have a lesser driveshaft than the GT. GT's use a shaft with a carrier support bearing in the center, basically the GT has two short shafts allowing a higher speed. The V6 has no center support, just a sliding spline in the center.
I believe this makes for much more shaft flex and a much lower critical speed.
The Driveshaft Shop is working on a very strong CV style shaft using an aluminum tube but it's not out yet and when it is will be pretty pricey.
One reason consumers buy a sports car is to drive fast especially if you got a stang. Ford really needs to change on how there marketing and advertising this car.
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ok wow..
the 95 mitsu eclipse also has a 160 speedo.. doesnt mean it goes 160..
they put a speed limiter on the car to keep people safe (even from lack of knowledge).
the V6 mustang is a very nice car. It is a very nice daily driver in wolfs clothing.
the 95 mitsu eclipse also has a 160 speedo.. doesnt mean it goes 160..
they put a speed limiter on the car to keep people safe (even from lack of knowledge).
the V6 mustang is a very nice car. It is a very nice daily driver in wolfs clothing.
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You're actually trying to say Ford is falsely advertising the Mustang because it includes a 160MPH speedometer that they never mention in any of their advertising?
Wow, I mean, just wow.
No where does Ford advertise or claim the V6 Mustang can do 160. The top speed listed on the speedometer is not an advertisement, nor an indication of what the car could do. I take it you're a kid, otherwise you would remember that in the 1980s virtually ever car built had a speedometer that was maxed out at 85.
Wow, I mean, just wow.
No where does Ford advertise or claim the V6 Mustang can do 160. The top speed listed on the speedometer is not an advertisement, nor an indication of what the car could do. I take it you're a kid, otherwise you would remember that in the 1980s virtually ever car built had a speedometer that was maxed out at 85.
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Originally Posted by Moustang
You're actually trying to say Ford is falsely advertising the Mustang because it includes a 160MPH speedometer that they never mention in any of their advertising?
Wow, I mean, just wow.
No where does Ford advertise or claim the V6 Mustang can do 160. The top speed listed on the speedometer is not an advertisement, nor an indication of what the car could do. I take it you're a kid, otherwise you would remember that in the 1980s virtually ever car built had a speedometer that was maxed out at 85.
Wow, I mean, just wow.
No where does Ford advertise or claim the V6 Mustang can do 160. The top speed listed on the speedometer is not an advertisement, nor an indication of what the car could do. I take it you're a kid, otherwise you would remember that in the 1980s virtually ever car built had a speedometer that was maxed out at 85.
If my 2011 stang can only go 115 safely then just have a stock speed odometer that reads 115. I had a 1993 v6 Camaro and that too had a speed governor on it. The top speed was around 115 and so the speed odometer read 115. One never got the impression the v6 could go 140. The Z28 had a speed odometer of 160 or so.
I love my 2011 stang, however im glad I read the mustang forums. If not I would of never known about the speed governor and never known my 305 hp sports car couldn't safely travel faster than my soccer mom Mazda mini van
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
stop saying sports car. its not false because no one at ford said thats what it will do. You really are being silly and im and trying to be nice.
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they do not need to warm anyone since they limit the speed and make the car unable to go past said set speed.
I am sure these people are not lying.. its think kind of thinking that makes the car work and fun things in gerneral get messed up and taken away...
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I am sure these people are not lying.. its think kind of thinking that makes the car work and fun things in gerneral get messed up and taken away...
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Honestly. And not to be rude. You are coming across to me as the spoiled kid in high school who's parents just bought him a new mustang v6 and you now think you are the ****!
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
false advertising? Lol at the Guy who buys a car with the same engine as the fusion and expects it to be a "sports car".
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
You are extremely proud of that "305" number sent you... you have only said it 305 times now...
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Ok...
1- my old 1997 cobra that I bought for 4800 bucks can beat your "305" HP sports car.. so no jealousy here.
2- the gt your year has over 100 more horses than you.
3- the gt500 your year has over 200 more horses than you.
Your car is a base model. Stop acting like it is the god of all cars! Your coming across as annoying...
1- my old 1997 cobra that I bought for 4800 bucks can beat your "305" HP sports car.. so no jealousy here.
2- the gt your year has over 100 more horses than you.
3- the gt500 your year has over 200 more horses than you.
Your car is a base model. Stop acting like it is the god of all cars! Your coming across as annoying...
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
Ok...
1- my old 1997 cobra that I bought for 4800 bucks can beat your "305" HP sports car.. so no jealousy here.
2- the gt your year has over 100 more horses than you.
3- the gt500 your year has over 200 more horses than you.
Your car is a base model. Stop acting like it is the god of all cars! Your coming across as annoying...
1- my old 1997 cobra that I bought for 4800 bucks can beat your "305" HP sports car.. so no jealousy here.
2- the gt your year has over 100 more horses than you.
3- the gt500 your year has over 200 more horses than you.
Your car is a base model. Stop acting like it is the god of all cars! Your coming across as annoying...
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
The 2011Gt rocks a$$. 412 hp. Killer. It's a freaking beast compared to the v6.