Who's reactivated their Global Window feature?
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Originally posted by Fastrack@May 18, 2005, 7:34 AM
I just put a call into Ford Customer care. The person is going to call my dealership and ask them what the situation is (I was standing there when they made the change). But the way it looks, this feature can not be re-abled.
Hey on yours if you get out with BOTH doors unlocked and lock the drivers door with the key does it lock the other side as well (Mentioned on Page #65)? I need this feature in order to enable the alarm without the Motion sensor!
I know there's other ways to do it. But this is by far the easiest.
Whatever was changed I'm sure someone will get to the bottom of it.
I just put a call into Ford Customer care. The person is going to call my dealership and ask them what the situation is (I was standing there when they made the change). But the way it looks, this feature can not be re-abled.
Hey on yours if you get out with BOTH doors unlocked and lock the drivers door with the key does it lock the other side as well (Mentioned on Page #65)? I need this feature in order to enable the alarm without the Motion sensor!
I know there's other ways to do it. But this is by far the easiest.
Whatever was changed I'm sure someone will get to the bottom of it.
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Originally posted by The Lyin' King@May 20, 2005, 10:53 AM
Would your husband be willing to share his inside information so we can all know what's going on with this? :worship:
Would your husband be willing to share his inside information so we can all know what's going on with this? :worship:
2005 Mustang - Optional Active Anti Theft Sysem - Power Window Global Open Feature no longer available.
2005 Mustang vehicles build after January 3, 2005, and equipped with the optional active anti theft system, do not have the power window "global-open - global closed" function. The "global-open - global closed" function of the power windows has been discontinued. This function cannot be reactivated on these vehicles.
Effective Date: 4/18/2005
He activated ours on 4-12-2005. Maybe he can run over to the Ford store and find something out. I'll ask him to check on it Monday.
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There are two different modules pertaining to the Global Open feature with two different part numbers. The old part number changes up to the new one.
The old modules can be activated, the new ones cannot.
Presumably Ford installed the some old modules after January until they ran out (who knows till when). There is no stock showing at any dealer (in Canada anyway) and no Ford stock. The only module that can be ordered now is the one that will not allow the Global Open to work. The system will show activated, but it will not work. The Global Lock feature is a part of the same situation.
Convertibles appear to only have one module, so they should be able to be activated.
My understanding is that the problems appear to have been related to accidental use of the remote. It is the same system as the Lincoln LS, which has been trouble free since 2000. If there is no fault with the system, the only way to address the "problem" is to deactivate.
The old modules can be activated, the new ones cannot.
Presumably Ford installed the some old modules after January until they ran out (who knows till when). There is no stock showing at any dealer (in Canada anyway) and no Ford stock. The only module that can be ordered now is the one that will not allow the Global Open to work. The system will show activated, but it will not work. The Global Lock feature is a part of the same situation.
Convertibles appear to only have one module, so they should be able to be activated.
My understanding is that the problems appear to have been related to accidental use of the remote. It is the same system as the Lincoln LS, which has been trouble free since 2000. If there is no fault with the system, the only way to address the "problem" is to deactivate.
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Originally posted by mstang@May 21, 2005, 4:05 PM
There are two different modules pertaining to the Global Open feature with two different part numbers. The old part number changes up to the new one.
The old modules can be activated, the new ones cannot.
Presumably Ford installed the some old modules after January until they ran out (who knows till when). There is no stock showing at any dealer (in Canada anyway) and no Ford stock. The only module that can be ordered now is the one that will not allow the Global Open to work. The system will show activated, but it will not work. The Global Lock feature is a part of the same situation.
Convertibles appear to only have one module, so they should be able to be activated.
My understanding is that the problems appear to have been related to accidental use of the remote. It is the same system as the Lincoln LS, which has been trouble free since 2000. If there is no fault with the system, the only way to address the "problem" is to deactivate.
There are two different modules pertaining to the Global Open feature with two different part numbers. The old part number changes up to the new one.
The old modules can be activated, the new ones cannot.
Presumably Ford installed the some old modules after January until they ran out (who knows till when). There is no stock showing at any dealer (in Canada anyway) and no Ford stock. The only module that can be ordered now is the one that will not allow the Global Open to work. The system will show activated, but it will not work. The Global Lock feature is a part of the same situation.
Convertibles appear to only have one module, so they should be able to be activated.
My understanding is that the problems appear to have been related to accidental use of the remote. It is the same system as the Lincoln LS, which has been trouble free since 2000. If there is no fault with the system, the only way to address the "problem" is to deactivate.
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Originally posted by mstang@May 21, 2005, 4:05 PM
There are two different modules pertaining to the Global Open feature with two different part numbers. The old part number changes up to the new one.
The old modules can be activated, the new ones cannot.
Presumably Ford installed the some old modules after January until they ran out (who knows till when). There is no stock showing at any dealer (in Canada anyway) and no Ford stock. The only module that can be ordered now is the one that will not allow the Global Open to work. The system will show activated, but it will not work. The Global Lock feature is a part of the same situation.
Convertibles appear to only have one module, so they should be able to be activated.
My understanding is that the problems appear to have been related to accidental use of the remote. It is the same system as the Lincoln LS, which has been trouble free since 2000. If there is no fault with the system, the only way to address the "problem" is to deactivate.
There are two different modules pertaining to the Global Open feature with two different part numbers. The old part number changes up to the new one.
The old modules can be activated, the new ones cannot.
Presumably Ford installed the some old modules after January until they ran out (who knows till when). There is no stock showing at any dealer (in Canada anyway) and no Ford stock. The only module that can be ordered now is the one that will not allow the Global Open to work. The system will show activated, but it will not work. The Global Lock feature is a part of the same situation.
Convertibles appear to only have one module, so they should be able to be activated.
My understanding is that the problems appear to have been related to accidental use of the remote. It is the same system as the Lincoln LS, which has been trouble free since 2000. If there is no fault with the system, the only way to address the "problem" is to deactivate.
There is still the rumor that the window switches in the door were getting wet, and causing a short circuit which rolled them down automatically. Doesn't make sense that Ford would deactivate a feature because of accidental use. That's like not selling the car to you because you might get in an accident.
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Originally posted by Hatchman@May 22, 2005, 8:14 AM
Thanks for this info, it is getting clearer now. The two different modules makes sesnse, since some can be reactivated and some not.
There is still the rumor that the window switches in the door were getting wet, and causing a short circuit which rolled them down automatically. Doesn't make sense that Ford would deactivate a feature because of accidental use. That's like not selling the car to you because you might get in an accident.
Thanks for this info, it is getting clearer now. The two different modules makes sesnse, since some can be reactivated and some not.
There is still the rumor that the window switches in the door were getting wet, and causing a short circuit which rolled them down automatically. Doesn't make sense that Ford would deactivate a feature because of accidental use. That's like not selling the car to you because you might get in an accident.
Or do the convertibles only have one module because they were all built after jan 2005 and thus no convertible can be reactivated???
Anybody with a vert get their windows working?
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Originally posted by AWmustang@May 23, 2005, 7:06 AM
Or do the convertibles only have one module because they were all built after jan 2005 and thus no convertible can be reactivated???
Anybody with a vert get their windows working?
Or do the convertibles only have one module because they were all built after jan 2005 and thus no convertible can be reactivated???
Anybody with a vert get their windows working?
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Originally posted by mstang@May 23, 2005, 1:41 PM
Mark (tigger199) is a Technician here at Whiteoak F/L and he activated his own and Simon's (Legend05) convertibles. They took the programming change and the Global works fine.
Mark (tigger199) is a Technician here at Whiteoak F/L and he activated his own and Simon's (Legend05) convertibles. They took the programming change and the Global works fine.
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I have an appointment with my dealer in the am on Thursday.
My salesman told me (yea I know, we've heard that a million times)
My salesman said that service has looked into it for my car and said that he should be able to get it working.
BTW. My car was built April 27th.
I will let you know tomorrow.
My salesman told me (yea I know, we've heard that a million times)
My salesman said that service has looked into it for my car and said that he should be able to get it working.
BTW. My car was built April 27th.
I will let you know tomorrow.
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Activated and no worky.
I watched the guy activate it.
He was quite surprised it did not work.
Maybe we will have to wait for an aftermarket module to come out.
I'm sure someone will have a fix.
I'm not sure if it's worth pushing the issue with Ford.
It just would have been a nice feature to have.
I watched the guy activate it.
He was quite surprised it did not work.
Maybe we will have to wait for an aftermarket module to come out.
I'm sure someone will have a fix.
I'm not sure if it's worth pushing the issue with Ford.
It just would have been a nice feature to have.
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Originally posted by mstang@May 23, 2005, 2:41 PM
Mark (tigger199) is a Technician here at Whiteoak F/L and he activated his own and Simon's (Legend05) convertibles. They took the programming change and the Global works fine.
Mark (tigger199) is a Technician here at Whiteoak F/L and he activated his own and Simon's (Legend05) convertibles. They took the programming change and the Global works fine.
Finally they came back to me and said Ford disabled it from the factory. I guess not all verts can have the windows reactivated.
In the same trip I asked them about the central locking (key in door should operate both locks). They had no answer for that. They said they would call the hotline and get back to me. So far no call from them.
On a side note, they did start out by telling me my car was not available with Global Open (as in never an option) and it did not have an interior motion sensor. You would think they would at least look these things up first.
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If they told you Ford deactivated at the factory, then they were most likely unable to reactivate it. If you can, take it to another dealer with the list on the front page of this thread. Its what I did. The second dealership got it going.
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Originally posted by wjones14@March 31, 2005, 11:47 PM
Mine doesn't work either, but on page 66 of the OM, it says "the accessory delay feature must not be activated in order for this feature to operate."
Okay, next question - what's the accessory delay feature and how do you deactivate it?
Well, page 44 answers part of the question - the accessory delay feature is the thing that lets you turn the key off, but the radio stays on until you open the door. I kinda like that feature and don't want to deactivate it, just so the Global Window feature works. :scratch: But, even if I DID want to deactivate the accessory delay feature, I don't see in the OM how to do that...
After thinking about it, why is the Global Window feature useful in the first place? So, you can open the windows with the remote. Wow, big deal...
Mine doesn't work either, but on page 66 of the OM, it says "the accessory delay feature must not be activated in order for this feature to operate."
Okay, next question - what's the accessory delay feature and how do you deactivate it?
Well, page 44 answers part of the question - the accessory delay feature is the thing that lets you turn the key off, but the radio stays on until you open the door. I kinda like that feature and don't want to deactivate it, just so the Global Window feature works. :scratch: But, even if I DID want to deactivate the accessory delay feature, I don't see in the OM how to do that...
After thinking about it, why is the Global Window feature useful in the first place? So, you can open the windows with the remote. Wow, big deal...
Very usefull when it's hot outside let the air circulate before you go in
Mine work fine Not so for my
poor brother (same car but different date of fabrication)
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My car was built Jan 26/05 and it works both key and fob .There was a recall after it was built that took in about 900 cars that were built ...at the time I was told it was because of the activated alarm system now whether its the global window feature I do not know but the system has been working since day one and was never de-activated as far as I know .
Here's 2 cents of speculation (and only speculation) that they could have done a fix to the 900 cars and found it to be too expencive and just de-activated the rest .
Here's 2 cents of speculation (and only speculation) that they could have done a fix to the 900 cars and found it to be too expencive and just de-activated the rest .
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It's obvious now that when Ford first decided they would no longer offer the Global Window feature, they took the easy way out and just "turned it off" in the junction box. That's why some of us have been able to get it working. We just had it "turned back on".
Eventually, Ford ran out of the original junction box and started installing the new one that they didn't have to " turn off" the feature because it just isn't there.
We can guess the change happened sometime in late March or early April. But we'll probably never know the exact date. If your car was built in one of those 2 months AND you have the Active Anti-Theft option, give it a shot.
Eventually, Ford ran out of the original junction box and started installing the new one that they didn't have to " turn off" the feature because it just isn't there.
We can guess the change happened sometime in late March or early April. But we'll probably never know the exact date. If your car was built in one of those 2 months AND you have the Active Anti-Theft option, give it a shot.
