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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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My dealer charged $90 for Pats relearn
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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I literally cannot wait to see how this turns out. good luck at the stealership, hopefully they can get it right.
The dealer did nothing wrong the first time.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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They'll charge me $100. Cluster not back in my hands yet. Just got a call from United Radio. They said they didn't send it backyet - I thought they had. They will have some metric clusters in a few days, and if I wanted to wait, they will give me one of those in exchange for mine.

I said sure.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhines
The dealer did nothing wrong the first time.
Yup. Was my fault for not indicating I needed milieage put in kilometers. Of course United Radio could have warned me that I would have to do PATS again and save me a tow.
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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right on. i just want this to work out perfectly for the OP after all the trial and error so far.

Originally Posted by dmhines
The dealer did nothing wrong the first time.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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A couple of clusters poped up on car-parts, incase anyone is interested. They work just fine in 2011/12 (2010 probably), but some functions don't do anything - which is what we are working on right now.


2013
Speedometer(See also Instr. Cluster)
Ford MustangMPH,AT,TT,TRIM=4W,MPH,3.7L,AB130545$CallGundies Auto Recycling USA-WA(Seattle-Portland) Request_Quote 1-800-444-4344

2013
Speedometer(See also Instr. Cluster)
Ford Mustang8K MILES DISPLAY UNDER TACH 3X273$CallSouthern Auto Parts USA-SC(Darlington) E-mail 1-843-393-3355 / 1-800-332-5132
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Following this with great interest. I have a 2012 GT500 and I would love the 14 electronics in it. Unfortunately I have WAY too much tied up in my Shelby to eat and just buy a 14. Good job and good luck.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Were working on it. We have a few hurdles to overcome. I would say ~4-6 more weeks till something is realistic.

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 91z28350
Following this with great interest. I have a 2012 GT500 and I would love the 14 electronics in it. Unfortunately I have WAY too much tied up in my Shelby to eat and just buy a 14. Good job and good luck.
I feel ya on this one.

I have a '10 with more money in it than I ever originally intended. Great car but I would love the '13/14 gauges.
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Old Jul 2, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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Cluster is back in my car and PATS is all good. Towing was covered under Ford roadside assistance.

He was too busy to do much else, unfortunately. He also figures agrees that the ABS module is what has the info for the accelerometer and such, but thinks that the info is already there, just that it is not normally used by the cluster. He thinks a new ABS module may just be blank and that the programming is downloaded into it. Still, there is certainly a price difference between a 2012 module and a 13, so there must be more to it than that. His thought is that if changing programming on the PCM will require changing other modules as well. Again, we didn't get a chance to try anything.

Sorry, all I got. I will keep looking for a used ABS module and see. Since it is coming from another car, it will already be calibrated. Just plugging it in should tell me if it will enable track apps or not.
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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The dream is not dead. Just dont have alot of time to work on these projects. I need someone in Kansas City with a 13/14 car and 5 minutes

Sweeping the needles. (Easy)


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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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Any way to get custom software for 13-14 cars to have a Digital speedo and Sweep the needles on startup?
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Any way to get custom software for 13-14 cars to have a Digital speedo and Sweep the needles on startup?
Unlikely... I will research after i get this effort over with.

I wish there were 3 Saturdays a week....
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Teaser. Still much work to be done, but i now know what i'm looking at. (Data wise).


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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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Have you discovered if the abs module is needed for track apps? And anything on cruise control?
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Have you discovered if the abs module is needed for track apps? And anything on cruise control?
The ABS module does deliver the correct data for Track apps to operate. However, i'm 90% certain that if we install this ABS module on our cars, it will break Advance Trac, ABS itself.

We are going to utilize a 3rd part accelerometer, and feed the data in ourselves. That is going to be phase 2 development though.

Phase one is getting all the gauges to work.

-Matt
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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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Doing the Lords work men. Keep it up.
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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 01:40 PM
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Smoothing, exercising between 11 - 15 AFR. I'm working on gauge control today. Tomorrow I'm (hopefully) going to start recording PIDS and translating.

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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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Interesting that the tach is lit up in red. I have not seen that in my cluster.

I would recommend that phase 2 should be getting cruise to function properly. I can supply the voltages of the cruise buttons if that will help.

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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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I know Ford is reading the thread so...

@Ford Engineering... 0x9F = 159 = 15.9 AFR ... lol Brilliant!
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