Curious if your tech guy has anything different to say.

 

I'm gonna ask about flashing a different VIN AS BUILT.

 

The 13/14 motor has 8 more horsepower. Maybe that may have something to do with it?

 

If your guy can do it, then I'll be annoyed with mine!

 

Gonna bring 2013 ViN with me and ask if they can flash cluster and body module.

 

Mission not accomplished. Service Rep friend logged me in and then we went into the back to talk to the tech to tell him what I wanted to do and question him about the AS BUILT. While we were in the back the Service Manager saw my Cluster sitting on the Passenger Seat. The Manager questioned the Rep about what was going on and he told him about my swap. They called me over and asked if the mileage of the cluster matched my car. I told them no. Service Manager said sorry .. we are not going to do it unless the mileage matched. He told me send it out and get it set and we will do whatever programming you want but not until the mileage is right.

GRRR .. oh well.

The tech told me that it will pull up the AS BUILT automatically by the VIN. He did say if he tries to put the wrong VIN AS BUILT in there a red light and error will display. He thinks he may be able to override it but he wasn't sure. He said he would try to load the AS BUILT from a 2013 if he could .. but we never got that far.

 

That sucks.

I'll be putting my old cluster back in and sending it to United Radio for mileage shortly.

 

Your old cluster will not work without another PATS relearn.

I talked to United Radio already. They faxed me a shipping label and the papers to fill out .. I'll send it to them tomorrow. Free ground shipping both ways ... or I can have it next day aired for $17 once they are done.

 

I double checked with the tech guy. Shouldn't be a problem.

Quote:

Hi There!

The clusters should be interchangeable at this point as both of them have completed the handshake with the PCM. Still digging for info on making the rest of it work. I’ll keep you posted.

Have a great day!

 

Crap!! Really?

The Service manager said they would have programmed it for me if I was going to put the original cluster back in before I left. I thought that wouldn't work...

I found a local speedo shop ... he is checking to see if his software supports the 2013 cluster odometer programming

 

Does this mean you can't see how much fuel you have, engine temp, etc?

 

No .. he means the "extra" gauges on the LCD are not working .. IAT, AF Ratio, etc ...

 

Ah, cool. I'm not sure I care a whole lot about those.

How do you guys make sure that your mileage will match up between the old cluster and the new cluster? When you send it out to reprogram, are you asking them to put a little buffer on it?

 

We have to send the cluster out to United Radio (or other place). They input the mileage you tell them to with proof (current oil change or something) and send it back.

 

Oh yes, that I understand. But let's say you tell them to set the mileage to 6000 (from your last oil change), but then you drive 100 more miles before they get it back to you. Isn't it still wrong?

 

They are not worried about + or - 100 miles.

 

Just shipped my cluster to United. Local guy wanted to much money and didn't know if he could do it

Jim do you know if the SJB wiring is same from 2012 to 2013?

 

I'd have to get the 2013 plug diagrams, but I'm willing to bet $ they are the same.


I have the 2012 wiring manual, but for 2013, I have to make trips to the dealer to get them to print certain pages off for me.

 

Nevermind. I see the cruise switch goes straight into the PCM. So no AS BUILT update is going to make them work. Would need a 2013 PCM.

 

Yup. And can't find any around, either. Everybody sells them with the engine and are not willing to sell it on its own.