Mixing apples and oranges together and trying to pass it on as a valid argument? Yeah, no. A 1000 cars out of 22,000 is a HUGE issue. Especially to such a huge corporation as Ford. That's a quality control issue of big defects. That's 1000 people waiting to get killed on the highway when you can't shift, or your shifter pops out in the middle of a hill. Hell, even 100 cars is an "issue".

I'm also going to ignore your posts as well.

 

Yes! haha Most definitely, when he gets called out here he runs back over to suckle at the tit of AFM. He has a group of misguided fools there who look to him as their messiah, and perpetuate his garbage hysteria. That's why TMS is the only Mustang forum I belong to. People here are smarter and less tolerant of BS. He gets called out here and it makes him uncomfortable. He comes in for these "hit and run" posts, never addressing any of the legitimate question proposed by me or our other members.

 

I think it's all being blown out of proportion. The real problem is with my auto. I can't make the paddle shifters work. Every time I try to shift my windshield gets squirted with water or I flash my brights at someone. Annoying.

 

Ha! You're one to talk! Several posts ago you assured me proof that more than 660 cars were affected. I want this proof.

 

bahahahahahahah

 

It's not apples and oranges, it's how the rest of the civilized world is going to look at the problem. They're not going to sit there and quantify which transmissions exactly. The media is going to lump it all together.

But even in the off chance they wouldn't, you really think someone is going to sit there and go "Wow...1000 people out of 22,000 had an issue. How could Ford do this!? START THE RECALL!"

regarding you now ignoring my posts: Please do. In fact, just ignore this thread all together. For you're clearly too irrational and delusional to participate in any sort of logical and coherent discussion.

 

I though I’d add this.

Ok total 2011 Mustang Production was 68,650

6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS MT82 31.71% of total Mustang production numbers

21,762 Mustang were equipped with the MT82

If 3% had problems that would be 712 cars

Don’t have the numbers for this year but assuming they are close to last year then, MAYBE for two years doubling the numbers bring us to

2011 68,650
2012 68,000

42,000 with the MT82 3% brings the total numbers to 1400 cars.

Now that is a lot but of that number who is still having problems?

If 5 to 10 percent of that number are still having problems that number is wait for it…………..10% or about 140 cars…………….out of 42,000 cars……………now that percentage is about .33%

Look I was stations in California for four years and I did Lemon Law on a Jeep, if Ford denied your petition to Lemon Law the car go to the next step...... The Arbitration Board Quit Stirring Up…………………… Stuff!

Go to the next step..............

 

Can you break it down further and do a V6/GT manual breakdown. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is only prevalent in the GT manuals, right?

 

V6's as well.

 

No there are people with both V6 and V8 claiming issues.

 

Some folks are having issues in the V6 as well. My question is this....of all the transmission complaints, how many do you think are valid complaints? I'm talking about complaints that are not really problems but are perceived as problems because of the enormous thread over on AFM.

I.E...about a month ago, when I was looking over that thread, I asked my wife if she had shifting issues with here car. To my surprise she stated the she had problems with it going into second sometimes. I took her car for a drive and I had no problems shifting the car. I then went for a ride with her. Now, she is in her late forties and drives like it. The first thing that I notice is that as soon as she shifts the skip shift lite comes on. After I explained the operation of the skip shift to her, she has not had an issue since.


Now, I posted this same thing on the other forum and as in most cases they went into attack mode. I finally grew weary of the attacks and left the site. I did make two posts over there yesterday because I was wrongly accused of sending threatening emails to Matero and his father. I might be stupid but I'm not that stupid.

With all that said, I hope they get their cars fixed and I could not be happier with the two that I have.

 

Yup, it's skip shift

 

Fairly certain he didn't claim every last person with issues was being caused by skip shift. He stated that some of the people with complaints probably don't understand what the hell is going on when that skip shift light goes on and are trying to put it into second with it lit. After being "locked out" by skip shift they look online and assume they are having the same problems a few others might be having.

 

Now, did I say all cases were related to skip shift? Of course I didn't...but this is the same way you guys are blowing this issue way out of proportion.

With that logic, we could say that the pics you posted were nothing more than an abused transmission!

 

Ditto!

 

Are you suggestion that someone buying a $40,000 vehicle with 412HP doesn't understand what skip-shift is? I can understand someone that's not into cars/mustangs riding for the first time and seeing the huge message that appears 1-4 SKIP SHIFT, but come on.

 

Abused? The car has 412HP. Are we not suppose to drive it, track it, because it will break? Then why even build it to begin with? Same logic can apply both ways.

Either way, it just bugs me that you guys downplay the issue. My dealership alone has done over 30 fluid swaps since February. Mind you, when I called they told me they didn't even have it in stock and I would be the first one to get it done. 2 months later, 30 cars. That's one dealership, that has at least 10 different Ford dealers within a 20 mile radius.

You will see MANY more issues, once winter rolls around. Mine started in cold, rough shift and grind. Someone developed it after 10k miles. Transmission whining is not a normal characteristic. We had someone report that a Ford engineer drove his 12 stang with a whining tranny and they confirmed it was not normal.

We just want a fix, to be honest. This issue is big enough to get attention and it should. People in cold feel it more than people down south. However, we have a lot of people reporting from Florida and SoCal as well with multiple tranny issues.

Do some research, and not just on JMateros thread but over 200 threads at allfordmustangs.com with multiple members.

 

I would not go as far to call that message huge....it is very easy to miss. What does HP and cost have to do with skip shift?

I'm normally looking at the road when I drive and shift not looking for some little hidden indicator. And I say yes, it could be causing some invalid complaints.

 

People do research before they buy cars. Most Mustang owners, are car enthusiasts. We all knew about skip-shift before we even bought the car. Many reviews touched up on this issue as well. Stating that the general Mustang population is fooled by the skip-shift hidden feature, is a bit of a stretch.

 

I personally didn't know what skip shift was until I got onto a couple forums and looked around a bit. Do you really think everyone that has a Mustang was a forum member before the googled "Mustang transmission lockout"? I have scanned posts from people in many MT82 problem threads where it was the persons first post and I have no problem believing they did little to no research on their transmission capabilities before they had some kind of problem.