I remember the posts around late 2009 when we found out the 2011 transmissions were going to be the MT-82 and people were concerned with it a) being built in China and b) the issues with the Transit Connect dating back to 2004. I don't know how I'd react in this situation, but I have friends with Lightnings that shot spark plugs out of the heads, Mach 1s with grinding TR-3650s, etc and they all still love their cars, even when Ford didn't really help them out. I hope this gets resolved for the owners on these forums, but with the way things were handled in the past, I wouldn't expect much...

Good luck guys. Built TR-6060s all around!

 

I just think it is funny that people think "Oh he's has multiple transmission failures, they must have all been bad." Obviously something outside of the transmission seems to be causing the problem. Could be as simple as a screwed up mount that has the engine at an odd angle making things not line up right. Honestly this seems to just be more "Me me" crap cause his other threads finally stop getting posts other than on the AFM one.

 

Haha, I have seen you post that before when people ask you why you haven't lemoned the car yet... It is not Fords decision whether or not you get to Lemon Law your car. What don't you get about that?!? Ford has done all they can for you, you claim they have not helped you, yet they have replaced everything from your clutch to your transmission 3 times. What more do you want? Some cars are just unfixable for whatever reason, hence the reason for Lemon Laws. Use it so we don't have to read your thoughts on big bad Ford on every forum that is out there, please.

Also, from what I asked earlier, I take it you have not visited a transmission shop for an estimate or opinion... Dealers are not repair shops, well most aren't. They are car part replacement depots. Most can only replace parts, not diagnose. You have zero credibility when it comes to logically thinking people cause it seems like you would rather "shout from the rooftops" and demonize Ford before taking rational steps , like seeing an expert, to fix the problem.

What happens when the TR-6060 you get from Ford because of 20/20 fails because of whatever in your car is causing the MT82s to fail? Will it still be Ford's fault?

 

SO MUCH FAIL

This is the Audi 5000 fiasco all over again.

Jmatero is an absolute lunatic who is single-handedly waging a baseless campaign.

Are there people out there with problems? Yes. Should Ford take care of them? Yes. Is it anywhere near 30%? NO. Is it anywhere near 5%? NO. In manufacturing, a 5-10% defect rate on something like this would be an absolute fail, and Ford's own legal team would probably be pushing for a stop-sale/recall of Mustangs. In reality the defect/failure rate is probably around 2-3% at MOST.

Jmatero is one sick, sick puppy. He can't produce any evidence other than anecdotal evidence, skewed, invalid forum polls and a 2-year old, 2-page thread on some foreign Land Rover forum. GREAT JOB!

He is fear-mongering, and unfortunately doing a very good job of it. He exaggerates RELENTLESSLY. If anyone at ABC is reading this, do NOT run this story unless you want to look like fools.

 

this reminds me of when they had the news special on the 2006 civic si for the 3rd gear problem

 

3% is still 660 vehicles, which I can assure you is more than that. But for the hell of it, let's say it's 660. So these 660 have spent on average $30,000, that's almost 20 mil we gave to Ford. Why do you think us, the 660, shouldn't have working cars?

Jmatero is all over the place, but you can't blame him for trying to have his **** fixed. You post here while you don't even have a Mustang. So I don't see you much different than him.

Bottom line, 660 people is a large number. 20 million is a large number. I don't see the arguments why people are against it. It's a large issue that isn't getting attention from Ford. We already waited one year. We need a fix now. Simple, really.

 

Best post yet. Honestly 3 different transmissions go bad in the SAME car and they never looked at other parts? Either bad shifting, a screwed up mount/alignment, or a combination of both is what is wrong with his car. Am I an auto mechanic? No, but I am a tech in the military and one of the first things to check when something goes bad is input/output.... just saying.

 

Yeah I'm with Knight, additionally, it's not even signed (don't think I've seen a Ford letter without a signature).

EDIT: I'm not saying no one has issues. I just don't think the letter is legit.

 

Reading comprehension fail.

I DO think Ford should make sure you have working cars, as I said in my post. The problems with the MT-82 do not appear to be consistent or repeatable across the board. Is it the shifter bracket design? Clutch? Flywheel? An assembly or metallurgy issue. There is too much hysteria for any rational person to take this seriously. Jmatero and the rest of you should be in the lemon law process by now. Jmatero has a Deputy Jesus complex, thinking he has to save us from a transmission which Ford design to suck ON PURPOSE. I'm not buying it.

The letter he posted is likely a forgery. And he claims there are (I quote from AFM) "a multitude" of posts on Ford Transit forums about owners replacing their MT-82s with automatics. If you do extensive googling, you'll find next to no threads/posts about MT-82 problems, other than threads that JMatero has directly been involved in.

But keep doin' what you do dude, you and Jmatero should go on a date...question is, whose car are you gonna take?

 

This. I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that Ford has put three transmissions in his car. Considering a transmission through Ford is a $3000 item, putting $9k into a car that's less than a year old is surprising to me.

The facts will come out, this is being blown out of proportion, and it will be set straight.

 

And do you notice that whenever he meets any kind of resistance, skeptism, or questioning he calls everyone else wrong/trolls and runs back to his other mega forum? I would honestly see vast amounts of humor in this if he wasn't trying so hard to make sure everyone on the planet thinks our cars are ticking time bombs.

Do I feel sorry for those that do have serious problems? Yes, I honestly do. But those people need to understand that there will always be a few % of manufactured goods that fail/are lemons. And, as I have mentioned, I have yet to see any of these people go to a third party expert to get other opinions. Maybe if a transmission expert tells them that notchiness is not grinding and some notchiness is normal they will be able to get on with their lives. Or the expert will tell them it is not the trans, but the clutch, misalignment, etc... That would be rationally working towards a solution, and a process I would get behind.

 

Thanks for the childish insult. Very mature. Again, you discredit everything you type in here. You don't even own a Mustang so you shouldn't be posting here, period.

Second, you're not familiar with a lemon law AT ALL. Google, analyze and than come with your opinion. You don't understand how long it takes and how hard it is to get the lemon law passed. It's not a sign and done deal.

Again, I'm just going to ignore your posts since you have ZERO credibility.

 

No, you CAN'T. PROVE it, jmatero crone. Your "evidence" is just as good as his, which means it's garbage. You must be getting you numbers from one of jmatero's polls! And your legitimacy is becoming the same as his, which is ZERO.

 

Oh well, I put in my 2 cents... time to sit back and

 

I missed where he said you shouldn't have working cars. Could you point it out?

You can when he starts fabricating evidence. Complaining and causing a ruckuss is one thing, start lying about it and suddenly the story changes.

How does this have any bearing on the conversation? Why does it matter if he has a mustang? You're wanting ABC to get involved, do you think *everyone* at ABC must have mustangs too in order to report the story and get the issue solved? Sounds like your grasping for argument points.

I'm sorry, but no it's not. Not when you're talking about over 100,000 units sold/delivered. 660 is a very small number and can easily be said as the "unlucky few." No one is saying you should be left in the cold, but please don't think it's bigger than what it is.


But that's just it, it's not a large issue. It's large to you because you are experiencing it, absolutely, but from an objective standpoint, if even 5000 people were claiming this... I'd still have a hard time finding someone who wouldn't want those odds. "5,000 out of 100,000 people have had issues. Do you want to try your luck?"

As far as ABC getting involved, I think it's not nearly to that point yet, but at the same time, Ford is a corporation with a marketing department. I'm sure they can handle a "20/20 Investigation." without many detrimental effects, if any.

 

How do problems with a car warrant a special on 20/20? lol I guess the world really is over tomorrow.
Use your warranty, sue ford if you want, use the lemon law, but 20/20? really!?

How come 20/20 didn't do a special on all the lemons GM made with the camaro, when they were snapping trans shafts, and horrible cheap paint?

 

Whoa...whoa...is there some kind of problem with the manual transmission in the Mustang?

 

Dude, you're basing your arguments on jmatero only. There are MANY other people experiancing issues with the tranny. Where the hell are you getting 100,000 people from?! 22,000 6 spd Mustangs have been sold that were 2011. Including V6's.

Jesus, if you want to attack or make a valid argument at least do some research.

 

Yep, with EVERY LAST ONE. It's just a matter of time, make Ford fix it now even if no one is sure where the problem is coming from exactly!

Oh well, I pick up my car near the end of this month. Until then

 

100,000 comes from summing up all mustang sales from last April, which is what EVERYONE is going to do. I wasn't factoring in the difference between Manual/Automatic as I didn't have those numbers, but it doesn't really matter as Manual is the minority and everyone is going to lump Manual and Automatics together (even if they are different). But even with 22,000 being manual only... the point still stands. 660 is still a tiny number, 5000 is still small.

I'm not basing anything on Jmatero's post as I think he's just screaming his head off and throwing whatever he can and hopefully getting something to stick.

I didn't attack anyone in my post. Stop crying "victim".