See, this is from another board. I wonder why so many users here aren't like this.
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Originally Posted by nsadams87xx
I don't even have problems and I'll do it.


-All for one and one for all. Long live the Snarling Silver Pony...


Thank you. I wish more owners were like you and that they saw a greater cause rather than their personal interests. They do not see us as part of the club, but rather outsiders. We paid the same money like everyone else and we want our toys to work."

 

Those of you expecting for Ford to own up to this problem and shell out for the fix... all I can say is, good luck. Do some research on the '96-'99 SHO camshaft problem. Lawsuits over that are, to this very day, still working their way through the legal system. Ford fvcked a lot of people over that, and still refuses to acknowledge the severity of the problem. Unfortunately, I don't see this going real differently.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

If only they could be trusted to keep it like that. But I fear they won't. Bottom line is they need a story that will attract viewers. And it won't be attractive unless it is a "scandal" of some sort. If it gets on TV it will be blown out of proportion no doubt IMO

 

With that logic, thousands of those are also stuck in dealership trying to get theirs repaired and are too busy to post in the polls. Goes both ways and I said the data will always be skewed. But if you ask around, you will noticed that the tranny issue is well aware in the mustang community so far.

 

They did it with the BMW right after the ABC story.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/bmw-adm...ry?id=11968495

That's how it's done

 

But Ford has already created a TSB. They know about the problem. All you guys want is a recall?

 

Did you even read the article? They recalled and fixed the issue. lol @ if you think the TSB is the solution. I had the TSB done and my car is performing worse. TSB is a temporary fix. TSB also causes tranny whine in summer due to much thinner fluid. The TSB is for a dual clutch in a Fusion, having nothing to do with a mustang. In other words, the TSB is a joke.

So yeah, we want a recall or a **** fix since there isn't one. Ford knows, this has been confirmed by Deysha over and over. All we get is a run around saying fix is coming. For over a year now. No, get ABC involved and we'll see how fast Ford comes out with a fix.

 

Yes there is a need since the topic is posted here and TMS members are being recruited from this site to state their case, which is fine. Besides, if allfordmustangs.com's poll is accurate why would it be different here?

If the both polls reflect similar findings it would support your position. Now if there is fear of a contradiction then I can understand your objection.

 

Fear? lol. Yeah, let's make a poll of such a small sample size of TMS member. This forum gets no action, at least not as much as others. You'll be wasting time, having 50 people answer. The other poll's have over 300 memebers with 5.0's answering. Be my guest, create it. I'll be the first one to admit.

I wish you could get off your high horse and realize that the tranny problem can happen to anyone at anytime. Someone had it develop after 10k miles. I wouldn't be too cocky and ready to put down others as you.

But do it. Let's all vote, for 50th time.

 

Ignoring your poor assumptions about what I'm trying to say aside, I still say you guys are blowing this out of proportion.

That TSB has solved some people's problems. I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the others are due to operator error or people looking to find a problem that doesn't exist.

 

You are taking things too personally. No one is attacking you so why are you attacking others?

 

No, you're attacking. You're not in a position where you paid $40,000 to drive off the lot and have your transmission fail 2 blocks down. Once that one was replaced, the rough grinding throughout the winter will sure as heck annoy you. So downplaying the issue, calling it user error and defending Ford instead of regular Joe's like yourself, is an attack.

I mean no "personal" attacks against anyone. We're all in the Ford family. At least for now. I'm just illustrating that even if your car is flawless now, it might break down later. You will regret putting us down and realize that you could have contributed to the solution.

 

...wait, is there a problem with the Mustang's manual transmission?

 

The same guy doing the Mustang investigation also did the BMW Fuel Pump one. In that case, within an hour of it airing, BMW recalled every car.

The focus was not on the car, or even the problem, but how BMW responded to owners experiencing issues.

The focus will be the same here. My dealer alone has had 27 mustangs come in for this issue and is just as p&ssed off as us that Ford hasn't had a fix in over a year. And now the 2012 owners are starting to complain about the same thing.

Ford is playing with the reputation of a legendary car and it's nonsense. If the Chinese can't build a transmission in a consistent way, either build it elsewhere or use the Tremec.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/bmw-adm...ry?id=11968495

 

So I guess I was putting you guys down when I said "I'm sorry about your car" earlier? Or the times when I've sympothized with others who've had similar problems?

Look I've got not problems with you guys trying to get an issue fixed. That's fine. But I think getting an ABC 20/20 is a bit excessive. Why, you might ask? Because the issue may not be a Ford problem. You might be expecting too much, or you may not know how to drive the car properly, etc. There could be a ton of different reasons why yours is not performing like you want. Who knows

I do know that if I had as many problems as you guys claim to have I would have traded that thing in a LONG time ago

 

I have to admit, 95% of the time, my trans shifts as smooth as could be. However, 2nd gear and 3rd gear shifts occasionally have a rough engagement (sounds like a "clunk" with the clutch fully depressed) rather than a grinding and I'm only guessing that this isn't how it should work. Is this similar to others who have had an issue? The only videos I've found have been whine videos and some with severe grinding, and neither case fits my circumstances.

I've only got 400 miles so far, so I'm not freaking out yet as to the longevity of the trans, but I am slightly concerned that they've not been able to solve this problem which has been happening for over a year now.

 

With all due respect, why should I trade in my car at a LOSS because Ford won't fix my car? Have you not been to this thread: http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...hread-259.html

Almost 4000 posts from angry owners. I just lost my 3rd MT82 transmission at only 5000 miles and Ford can't figure out what's wrong with the car. There are threads on Facebook. There are posts all over the NHTSA website from owners.

When Ford refuses to admit there's an issue, and can't fix their cars... and won't respond to inquires... and offers no fix... what else can we do? And it's not just the Mustang. The other two vehicles this transmission is used in are also plagued with the same problems going back to 2004. Almost 8 years and no fix from Ford.

You're suggesting we accept a big company walk all over us when you say "I'd have traded it in by now". I think you should ask yourself why this issue makes you so mad. You're more concerned about your car's rep than anything else. Don't be mad at us... be mad at Ford for the way they're treating us. It could be you. If it happens to your car, and this action brings about a fix... you're welcome.

 

If TMS so is irrevelent then why post it here? All indincations then point to you wasting your time.
I will refrain from labeling you a snob at this time. I among others are making reasonable comments, if those comments do not fit the support you are seeking or your agenda then it might be in your best interests to move on.

 

Both of my cars shift great! I've already let Gerry Wagschal know via email. Thats for the email addy!

 

LOL I'm not mad about anything? How do you guys keep coming to that conclusion?

Regardless I'm done with this topic. I've said what I felt needed to be said. I'll go back to my policy of ignoring the "sky is falling" crowd in this section from now on

Thank you George! You'd think we were in here murdering baby cats the way they respond to simple comments. Sheesh. I'm outty