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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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As for the shift ****, itself, I'd much rather have leather than metal. Heat/cold issues make leather more practical, plus I just prefer the feel...
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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6th would be cool, but it's only useful when cruising on the freeway. Doesn't seem like it would offer any performance advantage (or parity) with Chevy or Dodge... unless we want to get in a mpg battle in the muscle car war. Certainly not a deal breaker (agree w/ zzcoop) but Ford really does need to get with the times (thank you sharpie).
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ferrarimanf355
I think Ford just lost me... guess I'm back to the Camaro, then, unless this is the V6 and the V8 models have a 6-speed.
See ya!
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Question, why are so people hung up over another overdrive gear?
I'm not saying it wouldn't help a little... but to me its not exactly a deal breaker.
Originally Posted by zzcoop
Really. After all these years… is a six-speed REALLY that big of a deal?

I can understand it being important to some, but as a make-or-break feature? I don't get it.
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I agree with Boomer. I don't understand the 6 speed vs. 5 speed problem, either. I rarely use more than 4 of the 5 gears, now (start in 2nd, most of the time) and often only 3 (2, 3, 5 or 2, 4, 5 depending on traffic & circumstances). The only need I see for a 'Stang to have a 6-speed manual is the "Me too" attitude.

Now in an automatic, I can see it. The more gears, the shorter the shifts = improved CAFE. But in a manual, especially with a torquey V8, it's really overkill. Fun, perhaps, for going through the gears, but certainly not necessary. Nor even particularly desirable.

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YES! Where have you guys been? A couple of other threads, everyone is like the mustang is going to get its a** kicked! We need to have this and that or it just wont sell. Everyone else is doing it, why cant Ford?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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5.0 w/ a 5 speed fine by me
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MBK
5.0 w/ a 5 speed fine by me
Yes, I would prefer a 6 speed, but I would be happy with the 5 speed. Anyone know the likelyhood of a 6 speed auto?
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MBK
5.0 w/ a 5 speed fine by me
Agree. If a 6 speed comes with the 5.0, Ill buy it; if it only has a 5 speed, I'll still buy it. Not enough of a difference to me to be a deal maker/breaker either way...
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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No matter what your feelings are about transmissions this week's pic is the lamest one yet!
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zzcoop
Really. After all these years… is a six-speed REALLY that big of a deal?

I can understand it being important to some, but as a make-or-break feature? I don't get it.
Well, a 6-speed could show that Ford is keeping up with the Joneses, as the Camaro and Challenger both have 6-speeds. And that sixth gear could help fuel economy a bit by keeping cruising RPM's low.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Understood.

I just don't think any of that is worth "jumping ship" for.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ferrarimanf355
Well, a 6-speed could show that Ford is keeping up with the Joneses, as the Camaro and Challenger both have 6-speeds. And that sixth gear could help fuel economy a bit by keeping cruising RPM's low.
Could Help? Believe me, I've had both. 6th definitely helps, especially if you're going to put in 3.73's or 4.10's. If you do a lot of highway driving, it's a must.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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yeah...I'm a bit dissapointed, but I'll be honest. I thought getting a 6 speed was a "dream come true" instead of a real prospect.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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I don't know why everyone has their panties in a bunch. We all knew there wouldn't be any powertrain (engine OR transmission) changes until 2011. I just hope Ford can stay afloat until October or November 2009 so we can get our 2011 MY 5.0s then. If they axe that, I will be really disappointed. And didn't we already know that the 2010 is coming with the Bullitt's 3.73s...and THAT car had a 5 speed. Boohoo! Wah wah wah!

However, I do agree with the aluminum shift **** not being very desirable. Nostalgic? Of course, and some would say better than the silver plastic shift **** in the Premier Trim Package of 2008 and 2009. Easily changed though. I just hope they can make the F-150/Expedition's 6sp auto, and the T56 available for the 2011. The GT500 can keep the better, albeit most likely more expensive, TR6060 for now. The T56 is definitely stout enough for V6/GT duty...

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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For guys that own the Bullitt...is the **** directly metal? or is it clear coated like the premium/IUP Mustang shifter? (metal with clear coat)

More than likely it'll be coated as to not wear on the numbers, and to save your hand from burning.
I've never had my shifter burn my hand....ever....hot sun or not.
The seats...those are a different story.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Is the shift **** in the Premier Trim package clear coated metal? I thought it was plastic.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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why ***** about a six speed when a 5 is perfectly fine...... for instance my uncles saleen s281 extreme is a ***** to drive since 1 a 6 speed with 4:10's light weight driveshaft and flywheel.... your constantly shifting and its always jerking...... i dont see a problem with a 5 speed in a 4.6 you can actually crusie and putt it around in town
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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For those of you saying it is a big difference. I would ask what the gearing ratios for both 5 and 6 speed are. The last time I looked it up. The final gear was about .02 different. I am not sure 2/100ths of a gear is a big difference.
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by matko
Could Help? Believe me, I've had both. 6th definitely helps, especially if you're going to put in 3.73's or 4.10's. If you do a lot of highway driving, it's a must.
I think a lot of people have written why it SHOULD be a 6-spd (not necessarily a make or break thing). A long time ago a 3-spd and 4 -spd was enough!!! And again, I think it has a lot to do with FORD being so late to progress. They just recently put 5 and 6 speed transmissions in their trucks when other companies (like Toyota) have been doing it for the last 5 years. I've had 5 Mustangs and 2 Cobras, and I'm sure I'll have another. But it would be nice if Ford would be the leader or first to do something rather than bringing someting nice to the table after everyone else has. Much like HID lights, Nav system,r 19 in wheels, painted mirrors or heated seats.........we don't "need" a 6-spd..but I'm sure a helluva lot of people would love to have their car with all of these right off the bat. It shouldnt take Ford a couple of years through a model cycle to put the extras out.


GET RID OF THE ANTENNA!!!!!
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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get the 5.0 everything else comes second
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sharpie
I think a lot of people have written why it SHOULD be a 6-spd (not necessarily a make or break thing). A long time ago a 3-spd and 4 -spd was enough!!! And again, I think it has a lot to do with FORD being so late to progress. They just recently put 5 and 6 speed transmissions in their trucks when other companies (like Toyota) have been doing it for the last 5 years. I've had 5 Mustangs and 2 Cobras, and I'm sure I'll have another. But it would be nice if Ford would be the leader or first to do something rather than bringing someting nice to the table after everyone else has. Much like HID lights, Nav system,r 19 in wheels, painted mirrors or heated seats.........we don't "need" a 6-spd..but I'm sure a helluva lot of people would love to have their car with all of these right off the bat. It shouldnt take Ford a couple of years through a model cycle to put the extras out.


GET RID OF THE ANTENNA!!!!!
I'm with you, but think of it from their viewpoint...if they give us everything we want for 2010, why will people buy the 2011 or 2012?
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