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Old 11/22/08, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by metroplex
The base 05 GT can run low to mid 13s stock. The problem is that when a person in the market for a V6 Mustang looks at a V6 Camaro, they're going to stop and wonder if they could pay a little more for a better car. No one is talking about our current S197s. It's the 2010-up Stang that will be compared with the 2010 Camaro. V6 for V6, V8 for V8, the Camaro seems to have the slight upper hand in performance and handling, well the V6 Stang has 210 measly hp while the V6 Camaro has 300 hp out of a V6. If I had to buy a V6 pony car, I wouldn't even consider the Stang. The question then becomes value or bang for the buck.
Camaro blah blah... I asked one of the S197 platform engineers if they were concerned about the '10 not being competitive to the Camaro - His response: "If they buy a Camaro because it beats a Mustand in 2010, they'll be sorry in 2011." It didn't seem like it even phased him, after all, it's only one model year. Looks like the horsepower wars are on.

As for the Challenger - the body looks good, but the interior is crap - it's the same interior that's in the Charger and now defunct Magnum. As far as I'm concerned, it's still a one pony show!!

Old 11/22/08, 02:36 PM
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That's good info! That's what I want to hear! Thanks for posting!

Originally Posted by Coupe66US
Camaro blah blah... I asked one of the S197 platform engineers if they were concerned about the '10 not being competitive to the Camaro - His response: "If they buy a Camaro because it beats a Mustand in 2010, they'll be sorry in 2011." It didn't seem like it even phased him, after all, it's only one model year. Looks like the horsepower wars are on.

As for the Challenger - the body looks good, but the interior is crap - it's the same interior that's in the Charger and now defunct Magnum. As far as I'm concerned, it's still a one pony show!!

Old 11/22/08, 03:48 PM
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Won't make much difference if GM isn't around anymore anyway.
Old 11/23/08, 06:19 AM
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Ahh, GM will be around, albeit in a reduced capacity... 2 points though:

1. Even when the Camaro and Firebird were the performance and handling powerhouses, the Mustang outsold them. I consider that a win (okay, it's a cheesy way to look at it, but hey, take 'em as you get 'em). Just like winning a drag race because the other guy pulled a red light.

2. I have to admit that I did not have the "Gotta have it!!!" feeling I had when I saw the 05 for the first time. I understand that it's only a refresh... I don't feel let down, I just looked at the 10 and said "cool, I guess," and started looking for deals on new 07's and 08's left on lots. Then I had the meeting on Friday about the '11, and now all I can say about the '11 is:

GOTTA HAVE IT!!!
Old 11/23/08, 06:23 AM
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Are there really still new '07s on lots? They would have to have been sitting on the lot for at least a year.
Old 11/23/08, 06:28 AM
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Very hard to find... But they are out there. Usually with wierd or undesirealbe combination of options, making the MSRP rediculous. Unless, it was used by the dealership as a "showroom" car, like the 07 Shelby GT I was looking at.
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05fordgt,
you show a MSRP of $240 for the Rear Video Camera (77C) but I got it it quoted from a dealer with $385. What is the correct price for that option?
Also, could you post the prices for the convertible boot (59B) and the 18" V6 wheels (649)?
Thank you!!!
Old 11/23/08, 10:06 AM
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Will be available Bullit and California Special for 2010/2011?
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Originally Posted by Gon
Will be available Bullit and California Special for 2010/2011?
Bullit: No
California Special: Don't Know.
Old 11/23/08, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stangsimon
I saw guys from VW and Audi inside the new Mustang interior w/ rulers measuring stuff. They were in there a long time. Also saw Infiniti, Honda, Toyota, all over the Mustang interior. Could it be the new benchmark in interior design???
I am not sure why an Audi engineer would be measuring a Ford. Take a look at an Audi and then a Ford, Lincoln, or even Jaguar. There is a reason why Audi is measured as the benchmark in interiors.
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I am not sure why an Audi engineer would be measuring a Ford. Take a look at an Audi and then a Ford, Lincoln, or even Jaguar. There is a reason why Audi is measured as the benchmark in interiors.
Doesn't sound very likely, does it?
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Doesn't sound very likely, does it?
Nope. The engineers designing the cars are in Germany. If Audi really wanted to "benchmark" the Mustang, they would simply buy one.
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Originally Posted by USGOR
05fordgt,
you show a MSRP of $240 for the Rear Video Camera (77C) but I got it it quoted from a dealer with $385. What is the correct price for that option?
Also, could you post the prices for the convertible boot (59B) and the 18" V6 wheels (649)?
Thank you!!!
Hey bud, sorry for the delay. Was out in a parade with my Mustang Club all day and had dinner afterwards together. The price for the camera IS $385. Wierd. I could have sworn the print out I did said $240. No biggie. As for the Convertible Boot Cover and wheels, they are $160 for the cover, and $495 for the wheels. Hope this helps bud. Stay safe over there.
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If they're measuring, they're looking at dimensions not quality. American consumers have different tastes when it comes to interior dimensions than Europeans, everything from shoulder room to armrest clearance. If they're measuring the Mustang's interior it's likely because they believe it to be a good indicator of where our interior dimension tastes are.
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The fact that they were interested in it at all I take as a good sign...
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Yes, that helped. thank you 05fordgt!
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Yes, that helped. thank you 05fordgt!
No problem bud. Glad to help.
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No leather wrapped dash like in the premier trim package on my 07?
Leather dash FTW!!!
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Soft touch materials are already there. What's the point?
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Because a leather wrapped and stitched dash looks much better then any cheesy soft touch material ever could.


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