Imatk

I believe it has run it's course. I'm not really sure why it hasn't been closed already... Please close it and stop feeding the troll he seems to be enjoying it...

Vermillion06

Incredible! You just described yourself!

I provided a real-world example of how a soft plastic dash dryed up and cracked over the years and is repaired with a hard plastic dash cap.

You ASSume that the S197 Mustang hard plastic dash will dry up and crack since to you it's "cheap plastic". But nobody in the public has an S197 dash that's over two years old! This is not about a "thread war"-- this is about disproving these unproven ASSumptions that you and other people make because that aren't based in reality, just on your preconceived notions of Fords.

Please tell us all which picture that I posted shows this!
let me remind you what you first said:
So I did just that, and took a picture of my '06 Mustang. I also found pictures of a 350Z, G35 and RSX.
The pictures I posted show:

• The carpet in my own 2006 Mustang ends under the pedals and smooth, molded black foam firewall insulation is exposed. The carpet lays down smoothly against the floor.
  
  
• Nissan 350Z carpet ends under the pedals , and has firewall insulation showing,just like an S197 Mustang. The insulation is gray fiber.
• G35 carpet goes up higher on the left side of the floor only, while the carpet ends under the pedals exposing sheet metal, bolt heads, and insulation, which actually looks more unfinished that the S197 Mustang.
• Acura RSX carpet ends under the pedals the same as a S197 Mustang, but has a jagged, crooked upper edge that doesn't exactly scream "high quality".

How the heck did you come to the ASSumption that pictures show " better quality carpeting that is glued or tacked or bolted down" in the Z, G35 and RSX ? It must take a whole lot of imagination (or poor eyesight). Did you reach into the pictures and pull on the carpet to see if it was glued down?
The FACT is, these "journalists" are giving their subjective OPINIONS. If your opinion is that the s197 Mustang is not up to your standards, don't buy one and quit complaining about it .

Buy an import, stick your head under the dash and enjoy the smug feeling of knowing your carpet is "high quality", and the exquisite ecstasy of squeezing the "soft touch" plastic interior. We all know how important that is to you...


No, it's about was all about dispelling your ASSumptions about the S197 Mustang's quality.
Bring it....
What evidence? Kindly show me what evidence you are referring to. Are you referring the the pictures I posted, where you are trying to twist them around using you imagination to show something they don't show?

Vermillion06

You, of all people, are demanding that others do research to back up their statements and provide proof? You, sir, should take your own advice and stop being so hypocritical.

94tbird

oh man lol. this is great. just a thought though. BC_Shelby you said "i rest my case" that means you have to stop talking

Tony Alonso

I am interested in the specific manufacturers and models you use as benchmarks. For example, the Honda Accord picture posted previously does show uneven cuts in the carpet. One might consider that shoddy or cutting corners.


I posted those pictures because the SN-95 car's carpeting is less nicely attached. The S197 car is different in design and in assembly procedures. It is my opinion that comparing the past and present Mustangs show acceptable (to me) improvement.

In the MINI, there is a larger area of exposed metal, although it is definitely tacked down better.

hk2006

Nice John, this is excellent.....

Tony Alonso

Leather is an option.

What do you consider a benchmark (specific manufacturer and model)?


Only if the sniping continues...otherwise, I welcome seeing "point-counterpoint". I will be looking at these things and asking Ford reps at Woodward this year what they think about it.

Boltzman

How much do you think it would cost to eventually upgrade the plastic dash and door sides in our car? Is that even feasible???..I am addicted to mods Please HELP

tech

Out of the entire post, that's your response? My typo?

And the emoticons are getting a little old. You're supposed to be a writer? Is this how you are supposed to express the tone of your writing? Maybe you should start using them in your articles....you might pick up a few more readers.

And you have to use an exhausted exit line that was part of a Saturday Night Live bit....that's original. I'd love to see where you get the rest of your material.

Badsnke98

Seeing how my car was under a cover the last ten days due to all the rain in my area I finally got around to checking out the area. In my opinon as a "Finish Carpenter", I see that the people at Ford did a fine job. The foam insulation is attached and fully covers the firewall. The carpet is clean cut and is high enough. Tacking carpet is for flooring, not for vehicles. No the carpet is not attached under the pedals, but is heldown at nearby kick covers like anyother vehicle.



I know of more convenience features added from the days of my Cobra, with more coming for O7 and of none deleted. Seems you have not looked at many vehicles lately. Vaccum the foam insulation? Shoes belong nowhere near the insualtion. If the foam ever needed cleaning, its a dream job over fiber. The carpet is not going to catch on the back of the pedals. As for catching into shoes, well those type of soles belong on a wooden floor. Anyone wearing them on carpet is plain inconsiderate.



It's his job to deal with problems. If problems are eliminated so is his job!

This post of your visual opinion, is an additional reason I have little respect for Editors in general. They tend to change around the facts, to try and make a story.

Jeffs05GT

I dont know why all of you complain about the interior. It's sturdy, nice looking ,and these "cheap plastics" dont scratch if you accidentally bang your coat zipper against them.

People absolutelyt praise the Mazda 3 because of the extremely nice looking plastic in the interior, but ya wanna know how easy it scratches? Im not kidding, you could accidentally scratch the interior of your car up if you had a long fingernail.

I think it looks nice, I could care less how much the material costs, and I dont know why you are all so obsessed with this.