Watts to think?
1/17/12, 05:52 AM
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Thanks for giving me the heads-up. I've read other peoples' interactions with Sam Strano countless times on the web. Out of all of his reviews I've never once heard anyone complain or have something bad to say about the guy. He literally sounds like a guy who believes in putting the customer first and making his own suggestions after careful consideration and input from his consumer. I think that's more than admirable and I will surely begin talking to him about suspension before I start dropping in power adders. It frustrates me to no end reading on here that people want to go straight to 400 or 500rwhp without taking into consideration HOW it will affect the factory suspension setup and the inability to hold all of that power under control. I have goals and a long term plan. It I had the disposable income I would sure drop $15k and go with a GRIGGS setup but I have no track time (coming up in a month or so that will change) nor the excess cash to support a hobby of that magnitude.
Do you recall any of the questions he asked you that blew you out of the water?
Do you recall any of the questions he asked you that blew you out of the water?
What frustrates me is you talk about throwing power adders, suspension mods, all sorts of crap at a car to make it the best possible when right now you have no idea how to drive....???
Here's all I got for you: Get some track brake pads, and race brake fluid. Go to the track and forget everything that you think you know because you can break the back end loose making a turn in town. Get a good intructor and just listen and learn. When you have pushed the car as it is to it's limits safely and in control and you actually have a clue what you are doing out there, then start modding the car if you want to go faster.
I'm not trying to be a d**k but you should really re-evaluate your "goals and long term plan".....
1/17/12, 12:15 PM
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The stuff he came up with isn't anything crazy or some special combo of different parts. It was basic specific parts that fit my use of the car, what I wanted from a suspension, at a certain price range. It will not match his needs. Therefor it doesn't matter. And I guarantee you if you call Sam and tell him you want to order this this and this he will ask you why and then what is the car doing and then what do you want it to do and on and on (this is a good thing).... I am not saving him or you or anyone any time.
1/17/12, 01:09 PM
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What has blown me out of the water is that you have never tracked your car yet you're talking about buying $15k suspension setup if you had the money. The fact that you have already done things to the car is a mystery??? I hope you don't plan on running those 20's on the track....
What frustrates me is you talk about throwing power adders, suspension mods, all sorts of crap at a car to make it the best possible when right now you have no idea how to drive....???
Here's all I got for you: Get some track brake pads, and race brake fluid. Go to the track and forget everything that you think you know because you can break the back end loose making a turn in town. Get a good intructor and just listen and learn. When you have pushed the car as it is to it's limits safely and in control and you actually have a clue what you are doing out there, then start modding the car if you want to go faster.
I'm not trying to be a d**k but you should really re-evaluate your "goals and long term plan".....
What frustrates me is you talk about throwing power adders, suspension mods, all sorts of crap at a car to make it the best possible when right now you have no idea how to drive....???
Here's all I got for you: Get some track brake pads, and race brake fluid. Go to the track and forget everything that you think you know because you can break the back end loose making a turn in town. Get a good intructor and just listen and learn. When you have pushed the car as it is to it's limits safely and in control and you actually have a clue what you are doing out there, then start modding the car if you want to go faster.
I'm not trying to be a d**k but you should really re-evaluate your "goals and long term plan".....
1/17/12, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by adam81
The stuff he came up with isn't anything crazy or some special combo of different parts. It was basic specific parts that fit my use of the car, what I wanted from a suspension, at a certain price range. It will not match his needs. Therefor it doesn't matter. And I guarantee you if you call Sam and tell him you want to order this this and this he will ask you why and then what is the car doing and then what do you want it to do and on and on (this is a good thing).... I am not saving him or you or anyone any time.
1/30/12, 06:39 AM
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Two of my track only cars have used the Watts link and I have been very happy with the set up. I have only had 4 track days with my LS and purchased the system. The Cortex system was delivered on Friday. The quality looks and feels outstanding. The diff. cover is a work of art. The instructions are excellent. Now lets see how the install goes in the next couple of weeks.
1/30/12, 08:24 AM
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Two of my track only cars have used the Watts link and I have been very happy with the set up. I have only had 4 track days with my LS and purchased the system. The Cortex system was delivered on Friday. The quality looks and feels outstanding. The diff. cover is a work of art. The instructions are excellent. Now lets see how the install goes in the next couple of weeks.
1/30/12, 08:44 AM
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Unless you're literally wringing every last available fraction of a second out of your Boss, I don't really see the point of modifying the suspension, especially if you aren't doing it with corresponding data logging and skidpad time. Save your money and use it towards brake pads, fluid, and tires. You'll see a far better return on your lap times than with various suspension components.
1/30/12, 07:56 PM
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Let us know how it goes! I know my h&r rss suspension has taken away the buyers remorse for this car completely...I just feel more at home with my setup and to me, that's priceless. While everyone's mileage may differ, I'm more able to put the car where it needs to be and the chassis feels more m3
to me now.(meaning more tossable and stable) And now that the spring rates are stiffer there's also the side effect of less movement or squat, which minimizes the movement of the panhard bar.
2/4/12, 07:53 AM
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What has blown me out of the water is that you have never tracked your car yet you're talking about buying $15k suspension setup if you had the money. The fact that you have already done things to the car is a mystery??? I hope you don't plan on running those 20's on the track....
What frustrates me is you talk about throwing power adders, suspension mods, all sorts of crap at a car to make it the best possible when right now you have no idea how to drive....???
Here's all I got for you: Get some track brake pads, and race brake fluid. Go to the track and forget everything that you think you know because you can break the back end loose making a turn in town. Get a good intructor and just listen and learn. When you have pushed the car as it is to it's limits safely and in control and you actually have a clue what you are doing out there, then start modding the car if you want to go faster.
I'm not trying to be a d**k but you should really re-evaluate your "goals and long term plan".....
What frustrates me is you talk about throwing power adders, suspension mods, all sorts of crap at a car to make it the best possible when right now you have no idea how to drive....???
Here's all I got for you: Get some track brake pads, and race brake fluid. Go to the track and forget everything that you think you know because you can break the back end loose making a turn in town. Get a good intructor and just listen and learn. When you have pushed the car as it is to it's limits safely and in control and you actually have a clue what you are doing out there, then start modding the car if you want to go faster.
I'm not trying to be a d**k but you should really re-evaluate your "goals and long term plan".....
Get some knowledge and experience before spending money.
2/4/12, 08:13 AM
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For $650 why doesn't Ford just do it from the factory? I'm sure it would be cheaper for them to do it in bulk
I'm sure cost is a factor as the watts link under the panther cars looked rather flimsy to me.
What frustrates me is you talk about throwing power adders, suspension mods, all sorts of crap at a car to make it the best possible when right now you have no idea how to drive....???
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2/4/12, 11:11 AM
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I am with you on that , there is no better mod. than seat time and starts. The Watts link is installed and minor testing done. Way to early to really tell for sure.I was hoping to go to Roebling Road in two weeks but can't.
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