Those of you who dislike/hate the 2015
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I like the new look. Even more the longer it's been out. I respect that others don't like the new body style. For previous body style owners though, I believe it's mostly because theirs is not the latest and greatest anymore. I've seen it before when a new body style comes out.
And for those who say "get used to s197 tail lights"...that's a stupid statement. Let's say in a straight line the 11-14's are faster, stock for stock. It's so minimal that it's down to the drivers, so it's a moot point in my eyes. Besides, s550 owners can say "well, my internals are more stout, so I can throw more boost at it than you can". Or, "my interior is 10 times better than your s197 interior", etc. There's so many more of those statements you could make about the s550. Anyway... 
Fact: S550 is slower straight line.
Here is another fact: very large majority of Mustang owners will not mod the stock car, or at least they won't boost it. So that comment still applies.
How's that quote go ... it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile?
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In reality your post is actually referring to yourself, as your own words direct themselves right back at you through first hand knowledge and personal experience.. Therefore when you say that you've seen it before, what you actually mean is that it's really your own personal opinion rather than somebody else's 
And just for the record, perhaps your comments apply to some other previous body style owners such as yourself, however they do not apply to this previous body style owner and my reasons are this.. First of all, I've submitted nothing but positive feedback in these threads about the 2015 S550 from the very beginning.. Second, If I were so hung up about not having the latest and greatest anymore like all those previous body style owners in which you refer to in your post, I would had upgraded from my current 06 GT and got into a 5.0 Coyote in 2011 as soon as they became available.. But I didn't, as I've been more than satisfied with what I have and although I happen to like the new S550 Mustang.. I have no intentions of getting rid of my S197 GT just so I can say and brag that I have the latest and greatest, as I honestly could care less what other people happen to think let alone care about having to impress anybody.. The bottom line is this.. I may not have the latest and greatest, but I have the Mustang I've always wanted and have been just as satisfied as I was over 10 years ago when I got my first S197.. And the best part is this, It's mine and I don't have any car payments to worry about..
And just for the record, perhaps your comments apply to some other previous body style owners such as yourself, however they do not apply to this previous body style owner and my reasons are this.. First of all, I've submitted nothing but positive feedback in these threads about the 2015 S550 from the very beginning.. Second, If I were so hung up about not having the latest and greatest anymore like all those previous body style owners in which you refer to in your post, I would had upgraded from my current 06 GT and got into a 5.0 Coyote in 2011 as soon as they became available.. But I didn't, as I've been more than satisfied with what I have and although I happen to like the new S550 Mustang.. I have no intentions of getting rid of my S197 GT just so I can say and brag that I have the latest and greatest, as I honestly could care less what other people happen to think let alone care about having to impress anybody.. The bottom line is this.. I may not have the latest and greatest, but I have the Mustang I've always wanted and have been just as satisfied as I was over 10 years ago when I got my first S197.. And the best part is this, It's mine and I don't have any car payments to worry about..
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So whom are most of these people your referring to who don't find the 2015 as attractive Rob ?
Seems to me that most people in these forums do find them as attractive..
As for my regional area is concerned, they seem to be selling quite well in the Pittsburgh area despite how horrible our winter was this season
Seems to me that most people in these forums do find them as attractive..
As for my regional area is concerned, they seem to be selling quite well in the Pittsburgh area despite how horrible our winter was this season
To that end, people that I know and interact with in the real world is what I was referring to. In that light I have found that the majority of them around here are not at all enamored with the new look while others do like it. It certainly has not garnered the attention that the S197 did or the SN95 for that matter.
I'm well aware that sales are up year over year but I'm also aware that the car is sold globablly now instead of just here in North America and that certainly could account for some of the bump. I'm also aware that anytime a new sports coupe comes out there is that initial surge of people that just gotta have it. When the FR-S first hit the lots it was selling like hot cakes. Now it's sales numbers are so bad that I don't see it lasting another year or two at most. So while I'm glad that the Mustang sales numbers are good right now, lets see how they are after a year or 18 months.
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Well that's B.S because all base models have the same quality materials interior wise.. Even the base S550 models still use hard plastics, just as the base S197 models did.. But if you ordered the interior upgrade package along with the premium package ? The S197's also came with the very same soft touch materials as the current S550 with the same interior upgrade package..
So therefore, how much better are the materials really that much better over the S197 ? Well I sure don't see any significant difference between the S550 over the S197 as some have claimed to be so much better..
As I mentioned before in response to the OP.. I may not have the latest and the greatest, but I'm quite satisfied with what I do have and I sure in the hell don't need to resort by posting negative remarks about another person's car in order to get my point across !
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I'm referring to people that I interact with on a daily basis Rock. We all have real lives away from this forum, or at least I hope we do. This forum is not the place to take your measure of the the new Mustang or any Mustang for that matter because the people here are decidedly biased on the issue.
To that end, people that I know and interact with in the real world is what I was referring to. In that light I have found that the majority of them around here are not at all enamored with the new look while others do like it. It certainly has not garnered the attention that the S197 did or the SN95 for that matter.
I'm well aware that sales are up year over year but I'm also aware that the car is sold globablly now instead of just here in North America and that certainly could account for some of the bump. I'm also aware that anytime a new sports coupe comes out there is that initial surge of people that just gotta have it. When the FR-S first hit the lots it was selling like hot cakes. Now it's sales numbers are so bad that I don't see it lasting another year or two at most. So while I'm glad that the Mustang sales numbers are good right now, lets see how they are after a year or 18 months.
To that end, people that I know and interact with in the real world is what I was referring to. In that light I have found that the majority of them around here are not at all enamored with the new look while others do like it. It certainly has not garnered the attention that the S197 did or the SN95 for that matter.
I'm well aware that sales are up year over year but I'm also aware that the car is sold globablly now instead of just here in North America and that certainly could account for some of the bump. I'm also aware that anytime a new sports coupe comes out there is that initial surge of people that just gotta have it. When the FR-S first hit the lots it was selling like hot cakes. Now it's sales numbers are so bad that I don't see it lasting another year or two at most. So while I'm glad that the Mustang sales numbers are good right now, lets see how they are after a year or 18 months.
As for the people I mostly interact with on a daily basis, it's pretty much a 60/40 split in favor of the new body style, however on the other hand, those 60% still prefer the look of the S197 and SN-95 over the S550 and I believe you know exactly where I stand on this as well
And yes, I also agree with you about these forums not being the right place for taking your measures of the new S550 Mustang as most people on here who own them are still heavily influenced by their placebo affects as a direct result lol.
I feel the desire to jump in and say I love the 2015 styling. I really didn't care much for the 2010-2014. Although, they did pick a good color palette for those years.
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Although I can't deny the 2005-09's are my favorite in the styling dept
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I like the new look. Even more the longer it's been out. I respect that others don't like the new body style. For previous body style owners though, I believe it's mostly because theirs is not the latest and greatest anymore. I've seen it before when a new body style comes out.
And for those who say "get used to s197 tail lights"...that's a stupid statement. Let's say in a straight line the 11-14's are faster, stock for stock. It's so minimal that it's down to the drivers, so it's a moot point in my eyes. Besides, s550 owners can say "well, my internals are more stout, so I can throw more boost at it than you can". Or, "my interior is 10 times better than your s197 interior", etc. There's so many more of those statements you could make about the s550. Anyway...
And for those who say "get used to s197 tail lights"...that's a stupid statement. Let's say in a straight line the 11-14's are faster, stock for stock. It's so minimal that it's down to the drivers, so it's a moot point in my eyes. Besides, s550 owners can say "well, my internals are more stout, so I can throw more boost at it than you can". Or, "my interior is 10 times better than your s197 interior", etc. There's so many more of those statements you could make about the s550. Anyway...
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Latest and greatest eh? I paid cash for my 2014. As soon as I saw the 2015 and had the money, I immediately went shopping for a 2014 before they ran out of stock.
It had nothing to do with owning the "latest and greatest" which is debatable in its own right and everything to do with the euro style looks and IMO, the horrible back end, and the headlights which look like they came from the New Edge mustangs of 1999-2004. I wanted the retro look, and got the last of its kind. The new car steps too far away from that for my tastes. I harbor absolutely no jealousy over the 2015 Mustang. Just as I harbor no jealousy over Corvette owners. (we won't even speak of the Camaro). I like the Challenger, but in the end it's a Chrysler product and the Dodge Dealerships around here are all horrible to deal with.
I like the toggle switches though. If that counts for anything.
My biggest gripe is Ford's marketing dept. insistence that it is a 50th anniversary model, which it clearly isn't.
It had nothing to do with owning the "latest and greatest" which is debatable in its own right and everything to do with the euro style looks and IMO, the horrible back end, and the headlights which look like they came from the New Edge mustangs of 1999-2004. I wanted the retro look, and got the last of its kind. The new car steps too far away from that for my tastes. I harbor absolutely no jealousy over the 2015 Mustang. Just as I harbor no jealousy over Corvette owners. (we won't even speak of the Camaro). I like the Challenger, but in the end it's a Chrysler product and the Dodge Dealerships around here are all horrible to deal with.
I like the toggle switches though. If that counts for anything.
My biggest gripe is Ford's marketing dept. insistence that it is a 50th anniversary model, which it clearly isn't.
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I did give you a reason in my original posting. In a nut shell I said if other vehicles (explorer) are up 32% (best in 9 years) and they are not new models then the new mustang being up 32% isnt that impressive to me.
To me it just looks like Ford had a good month across the board. I am not trying to cheapen the report. I was really only curious.
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Here is a quick question...was the love/hate opinions flowing this strong when the 2005 came out? I was proccupied with other things back then but I was just wondering. I think the change from 2004-2005 may be just as much of a change as 2014-2015.
For the record I like the 2015 and have one on order. However, I also adore the 2010-2014 as well. I personally think it may be the 'change' that is gripping people. The Mustang evokes many emotions, especially the custom stuff one can add to make one 'yours.' Then the design changes? All the hard work spent by the community to make the other one look gorgeous is now just a little out of proportion.
For the record I like the 2015 and have one on order. However, I also adore the 2010-2014 as well. I personally think it may be the 'change' that is gripping people. The Mustang evokes many emotions, especially the custom stuff one can add to make one 'yours.' Then the design changes? All the hard work spent by the community to make the other one look gorgeous is now just a little out of proportion.
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I get a kick reading the posts in this thread. I am also on a large golf forum where you will have people go on to a thread and trash the a specific company's products, trash older equipment, or trash the new equipment. I think it funny that the same type of thing goes on here. The theme seems to be they have to justify what they own by tearing down what they don't own.
Personally I love the look of the gen 1, 5, and 6 Mustangs. The gen 2, 3, and 4 do nothing for me, but I know there are a lot of people out there that swear by the gen 3 and 4 Mustangs. I have owned 2007 and 2010 Mustangs and will be picking up my 2015 Mustang any day now. Each has a lot of positive qualities and I found improvements as I picked up each new model. To me, the 2015 looks stunning and I love the interior upgrades. I was going to order a 2015 sometime this year but when I saw one live in mid-January, I ordered mine the next weekend.
Personally I love the look of the gen 1, 5, and 6 Mustangs. The gen 2, 3, and 4 do nothing for me, but I know there are a lot of people out there that swear by the gen 3 and 4 Mustangs. I have owned 2007 and 2010 Mustangs and will be picking up my 2015 Mustang any day now. Each has a lot of positive qualities and I found improvements as I picked up each new model. To me, the 2015 looks stunning and I love the interior upgrades. I was going to order a 2015 sometime this year but when I saw one live in mid-January, I ordered mine the next weekend.
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Yes the opinions were strong then and dare I say even stronger than they are now at least initially. Same things as today: love / hate exterior, love / hate interior, oh no the S197's are huge pigs the 300hp 4.6 3v won't outrun the smaller / lighter 260hp 4.6 2v, etc etc etc lol....
I get a kick reading the posts in this thread. I am also on a large golf forum where you will have people go on to a thread and trash the a specific company's products, trash older equipment, or trash the new equipment. I think it funny that the same type of thing goes on here. The theme seems to be they have to justify what they own by tearing down what they don't own.
Man, this conversation can ONLY be successful if it is about cosmetics. Performance is so readily available from any number of suppliers that you can't even begin a logical discussion there. The real difference is the IRS.
For the record, every golf club I own, I have built from component parts for a fraction of what the big labels charge at retail stores. And they are fit to my game. You can do nearly the same thing with vehicles.
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The reason is the original Mustang made it's debut on April 17th of 1964 during the 65 model year as a 1965 model.. Therefore Ford's marketing dept is correct as they don't calculate the anniversary timeline by calender year, but rather by model year instead..
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Simple mathematics tells me otherwise. This was the first thing that popped up after a simple internet search which isn't always accurate but reiterates what I have been told for many years. 1964 plus 50 brings you to where? I don't get the logic?
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Doug ! I really hate to disagree with you on this, however the 2015 Mustang is officially the 50th anniversary model..
The reason is the original Mustang made it's debut on April 17th of 1964 during the 65 model year as a 1965 model.. Therefore Ford's marketing dept is correct as they don't calculate the anniversary timeline by calender year, but rather by model year instead..
The reason is the original Mustang made it's debut on April 17th of 1964 during the 65 model year as a 1965 model.. Therefore Ford's marketing dept is correct as they don't calculate the anniversary timeline by calender year, but rather by model year instead..
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Simple mathematics tells me otherwise. This was the first thing that popped up after a simple internet search which isn't always accurate but reiterates what I have been told for many years. 1964 plus 50 brings you to where? I don't get the logic?
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So the "1964-1/2" Mustang is branded as such by non-official sources such as historians, enthusiasts, and owners trying to identify the early build cars. Over the years it was referenced to this so much that it has become engrained that this was so. Tell yourself the same thing enough for a number of years and eventually it sticks as fact.
To illustrate this in more modern circles the new 2015 Focus was finally released for sale in February 2015 which is late to the traditional model year introduction. This is not officially a 2015-1/2 model. If it were something more significant I can see people referring to it as such but officially that is not what it is.
There, logic explained.