What's not rational. Some people think the lines of the car look weak and ugly. Some people think the rear end is just horrible looking. Its quite rational and not real deep. Buy what you like. Congrats on the new 2015 and enjoy.

It's hilarious to see all the people on here get such butt hurt over people not liking the S550. Like, who gives a crap whether people like it or not. If someone on here loves the 2015, go buy it. The butt hurt is super funny.

 

 

Well Kona, in wildsailors defense he does have a point to some degree. The biggest problem with internet forums is (surprise) people. Every forum has problems with people who just get a kick out of pointless arguments or being purposely douchebaggish just because they have nothing better to do. The JK Forum is the worst I have ever seen in that regard. It was like an entire forum of hateful trolls all trying to out troll each other.

So there's two sides to every coin. Personally I'm glad that people can express their differences of opinion. But on the flip side, I don't think anyone would argue that forum traffic across the internet is down because most people just get tired of the constant bickering that seems to take place.

Now lets all eat some biscuits!!!!

 

I won't troll on the biscuits...must resist!

 

You say the biggest issue with internet forums are surprise, people. With no people on the forum you can't have a forum. Are there giant douchbags on internet forums? Sure, but honestly I really am not seeing them acting like a douchbag in this thread.

People are just expressing their views and opinions on this topic that was started by a forum member. Funny that because a large majority of people on here are not liking the new 2015, people are being douchbags. If the shoe was on the other foot and majority of people on here were praising and slobbering all over the 2015, we would be the greatest people.

So, its okay if you want to love all over the 2015 and constantly say how much you love it repeatedly but not okay if one doesn't like it and says they don't like it repeatedly.

Now where those biscuits. Lol

 

I see your point. Not directly related but in a sense would you rather surround yourself with someone that is constantly negative or someone that is constantly positive? :-) I myself get tired of people that are constantly negative.

Edit- I'll take a side of gravy with my biscuits :-)

 

Sir, I do like your point. I personally would rather be around a bunch of positive people over doom and gloom party poopers.

Unfortunately, there are many people that are disappointed in the direction Ford took with the next generation stang. Me personally, I couldn't care one way or the other. My S197 is my first ever owned mustang and absolutely love everything about it. I'm not a Ford loyal only person. I'm not a mustang only loyal enthusiast. I'm a loyal car person to what ever car I find nice and that S197 was instant love.

When I'm ready to get another performance car in the distant future, I'll take a look at the current mustangs. If they are still the same unattractive design as they are now, I won't be buying a mustang. I don't buy a mustang just because they call it a mustang and stick a pony emblem on it.

Hopefully, the next generation stang in 2025 I will like what Ford has done, if not no big deal. I'll just buy a Vette or some other performance car that I find sexy looking.

 

Sir, I think your Hungary. Go eat a biscuit!

 

Ha ha ha. You sir are correct. I need a biscuit!

 

I've said my piece about the looks of the '15 and I've refrained from repeating or expanding upon those views a number of times. I certainly don't want to be considered a "drive by hitter" so I will be sure to post my opinion in every thread multiple times.

 

As I've said time and time again in this thread.. There have been just as many S550 owners/fanboys alike who have bashed/hated on the S197 Mustangs as well.. So once again, it works both ways and not just one sided as some would seem to believe

 

Just to offer some wider perspective, right now I'm in a 2015 V6 Mustang because my Mustang is at the dealership getting the hood corrosion issue fixed. They gave me a 2015 as a rental / loaner while they have my car. I have also previously driven the ecoboost. Having now driven both the cars I have to say that if I was going to choose between the two I would go with the V6 over the ecoboost.

Despite being the so called "stripper" model, the V6 still has a very nice interior to include backup camera. I'm not all that impressed with all the wiz bang gadgets of the premium interior. I find the base model interior to still be well done and quite comfortable.

Having had more wheel time in the car I can now fully appreciate what proponents of the S550 mean with respect to the IRS and how it plays into the driving dynamics of the car. The only downside to that is that to me the car feels heavier in daily driving. It still handles quite well but it just feels like there is more heft being tossed around. Not sure if that's actually the case or just a matter of perception based on how the car is set up.

I'm still not a big fan of the front end. I could see me getting accustomed to it, even to the point that I would own one. But I would never consider it to be a better looking car than my S197. If they would just fix that front end I think it would be the best looking Mustang ever.

There are a lot of minor improvements over the S197. Things like the seat belt clip, interior fit and finish, cabin noise etc etc. The only complaint I had about the interior is the stalk for the turn signal / high beams. It just feels cheap and flimsy. A minor detail that Ford needs to address. It feels like it could easily break off. All in all I have to say the car is well done but I still like my S197 a bit better and I can't see me trading for one unless they fix the front end of the car.


Now, having said all that.

 

The front end is not what makes the 2015 ugly although its not great but that's not the real issue. Fixing the front won't make it the best looking mustang ever as you claim.

Its the train wreck rear end thats the hiddious nightmare. Fix that freak show rear end and now your moving in the right direction. Then we can eat some biscuits!

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. Some people don't like the front, some don't like the back and some like both. I have no problem with the back of the car. I think it looks good. I really don't like the front end. It needs work.

 

Rob ! it's not even the front end that bothers me so much, but it's those wrap around/rectangular shaped headlight bezels that I can't stand..

They just look so out of proportion on such a wide opening grill, which IMO gives the appearance of looking like a wide mouth bass that's bugeyed lol.

All Ford really needs to do, is just go with a larger/rounded bezel for the headlights.. So if they can just do something with them ? I really feel the front end would look a whole lot better than it does now

 

Well yes. I've covered this fact extensively Rock but apparently you haven't read the collective works of Rob on this here forum.

Very well then. I'll cover it again since Rock can't be bothered to avail himself of the genius that is Rob. lol

The front end has bad symmetry precisely because of the relationship between the headlamps and the grill opening. The headlamp assemblies are too narrow and pushed too far out to the corners while the grill is too large and too wide. It gives the car the appearance of having headlamps from one car while using a grill from another car. Frankly its a design that doesn't work on the Fusion either as far as I'm concerned. Furthermore this is precisely why nearly every aftermarket company that has released a custom edition Mustang has made an effort to change the look of the front end. The Saleen, for instance, reduced the size of the grill opening and oriented it to keep in line with the headlamps thus giving the front end better symmetry.

Now that's the last time I'm going to give you this kind of brilliant insight for free Rock. From here on you will be expected to pay in biscuits.

 

Kona ! I know that we've discussed this before, but I honestly still don't understand what exactly it is about the rear end that you don't like ? So I'm going to ask you a few questions and maybe then I'll have a much better understanding as to where your coming from and hopefully we'll finally end up being on the same page as well

So what exactly in your opinion is so ugly about the rear end.. Is it the overall shape of the rear valance or is it tail light section, the rear bumper section or perhaps is it the fastback greenhouse, lines that you don't feel looks right ?

IMHO I feel the rear end along with the full fastback greenhouse is the most appealing aspect about the 2015 as far as I'm concerned, but that's just my opinion lol.

Anyway, let me know your opinions and feedback when you get a free moment

 

Heck Rob, I've been paying in biscuits ever since this thread began But anyhow thanks for refreshing my memory as I now remember the discussion we had quite awhile back regarding the front end symmetry between the grill size opening and the headlight assemblies

Anyhow there's just been so much going on in this thread since then, that I just plain ole forgot.. So therefore you have my most sincere apology for my memory lapse from not eating enough of them yummy biscuits.. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna go eat some right now, so it doesn't happen again

 

I definitely agree that the rear end is the most appealing aspect of the 2015. It's almost Ferrarish IMO :-) be careful what you say in this thread tho, remember it's a haters thread hahahha

 

Perhaps I can explain what I don't like. In a whole I don't like anything about the rear end. I feel its very soft looking and has no aggressive look to it. The rear end slopes downward and is lower than the front of the car. The cars rear end is slanted lower and works its way higher as you make your way to the hood. That lower rear end to me looks as if its submissive and weak.

Unlike the 2010-14 models, my 2011's rear end is a bit higher and moves downwards as you make your way to the front. This in the complete opposite of the 2015. The 10-14 models have the a$$ end upwards a bit and its a stance of dominance and confidence. The complete opposite of the 2015. The 2015 is very submissive looking and with the rear end sloping lower, its as if a dog is tucking their tail in between its legs.

The S197 has a stance as if it was going to pounce its prey. The S550 looks like it is the prey and not the preditior like the S197.

I don't like the slant going back to the trunk area. The tail lights itself are ugly. It amazes me how Ford can produce by far the most beautiful LED tailllights and shape with the 2013-14 models and then leave that modern LED technology and style.

The entire shape of the rear end is weak and not an ounze of American Muscle put into it. Just look at the rear profiles and you can see how the S197 sits a bit higher in the rear end. Look at the S550 and the rear end slopes lower

Of course its just how I see the S550. Let's also take into account the rest of the car is soft, not an ounce or muscle and looks like a Nissan 370 Z is the father.