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IIRC it is, one of SVT's signature selling points, and that the builders even sign their names to a plaque on each motor they build.

The_Munk

Thanks I learned somethan today

sgallison

Saw/drove my first C-7 yesterday, although I'm not a GM guy I LOVED it (except for the rear end). If the C&D pic is close to the new Mustang, it exceeds my expectations. I will patiently wait & decide then. However it seems like C-7 is a TON of car for the money !! Scott

Automatic 5.0

It is stock (I know, I am not good enough to be here with you hard core folks) but I have heard many Mustangs with many different exhaust systems on them. I did not wake up yesterday and listen to my first Ford, GM, or Mopar. I realize I am new here and must give right of way to members like you since you know so much about everything and your opinion is the only one people are allowed to subscribe to. I apologize for my posting in such a serious thread about our expectations of the new Mustang. Now I know why I owned GM cars since I was 17. GM folks tend to get along and don't look down on other people liking other automobile manufacturers.

wannabe

The Camaro5 site is a glaring contradiction to your last sentence...

steven46746

Lol wow, no one acted like you didn't belong here but at least put an axle back on your car before you say an old Lt1 sounds better. Maybe try a boss H with GT 500 mufflers, it's not quite a Lt1 but it was as close as I could get. Not sure where you got this thread was so serious but it seems you just made it serious......and I like plenty of "other" cars. Specs wise the lt1 was fine, I was simply commenting on the sound. Don't get me started on GM vs ford folks. GM guys almost always are more narrow minded. "If it ain't got a ls1 I don't care".

The_Munk

Almost all the GM guys worships the LS engine. Every car enthusiast needs to come together and help stop ricers

cdynaco

Geez come on man.

Camaro5 won't allow one iota of dissension from their god GM or they immediately ban you from their site.

My Bullitt is 100% stock and everybody that's heard my car Loves the exhaust note! And they own a variety of cars.

Mustango

This!

You know, I'm getting the feeling that a lot of people around here just want an European performance car but can't afford it. So they are wishing for an Euro Mustang because this is as close as they can get since the Mustang is cheap in comparison. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with the way the LT1 or any American V8 sound in comparison to any European.

Mustango

I agree the LT1 is one of the best sounding American V8s. Definitely in the GM line up. Sounds much better than the LS1 and better than the new Camaros too. Actually, not a fan of the way the new Camaros sound at all. The GT500 sounds way better than a ZL1 IMO. By far!

Mustango

Yes it is.

Semantics and most likely because Ford no longer has a real sports cars in their line up. But to me, a sports cars is like a Corvette, Viper, Ford GT, Murcielago etc.

The Mustang, Camaro, Challenger etc are in the same category as a BMW 4 or 6. They are sports coupes. The term Pony car is really just a thing of the past as much as is muscle car. The muscle cars of today are not really muscle cars according to the reason the term was created in the first place for the same reason the original Mustang wasn't and was called a pony car instead.

cdynaco

Trying to compare the sound of a pushrod to a high revving OHC is kind of silly IMO.

Trying to compare the sound of older engines to today's use of axle backs is also silly. As the "old guy" at the local muffler shop that caters to all brands of hot rods said, "you need that longer tailpipe to get that great sound". Axle back manufacturers try their best but most of them on cars from the factory still sound kind of nasal to me.

Mustango

Yes, the new Corvette looks promising. Haven't driven one yet but it looks like fun and much progress. Not a fan of Corvettes though and it has nothing to do with not being a GM guy. I never took the fanatic approach with cars and never understood it either. GM vs Ford etc. They all make good cars and crappy cars, on both sides. Just because I love Mustangs it doesn't mean Ford can do no wrong and all their cars are great. I had an Escort for a few months which was the biggest POS I ever drove. My roommate had a Sunbird and it never gave him any problems. So because I like Mustangs it doesn't mean that I can't like Chevy or Mopar. I don't like Corvettes but I do Firebirds. I also like the new Challenger etc.

Mustango

I think you're right if comparing technically. But saying one likes the sound of a certain engine better than another is just a matter of personal opinion and I think everybody is entitled to that. Now this bashing because it is a truck engine or sound like one to some is what is non sense. Kind like some people with an elitist attitude that only European cars can be good. And what if they use the same engines in trucks too? The new Mustang is about to have a Fusion front end. Pretty much all of Ford's line up now are Euro derived front wheel drive cars. But people have a problem with trucks and cars sharing the same block and engines?

steven46746

Don't think anyone at any point complained about any engine being used/shared in a truck. The SOUND makes you instantly think pos chevy truck floored from a stoplight.

Mustango

I guess this must be a matter of perception. I'm living in Europe for the time being and when I hear it, the last thing I think is truck, as we barely have any of them gas guzzlers huge American trucks around here. So all I think is American V8, or muscle car, or Mustang etc. But I guess I can see what you are describing happening if you live in the south of the U.S. or around the mountains.

eric n

I also have been the my local Cheby dealership to check out the new Vette. I think it's an astoundingly good looking car. I actually like the rear end as well. As per tons of car for the money, a nicely decked out Corvette and shelby run both run about 65k. I have at this point driven neither but I don't know that I would call the Vette a better car. Undoubtedly after driving both, I will be in a position to make a more informed judgement.

I'm perhaps the most anxious about the future gt350. It's an exciting time to like American muscle....

Mustango

Well, better is in the eye of the beholder or in this case in the intention. For drag racing, well... For better quality build and parts the Vette probably has the edge. In general, I'm pretty sure the Vette will keep up with a Porsche. The Shelby Mustang, not a chance. ;-)

The_Munk

I don't think anyone here wants a ''euro mustang''. Not everyone can afford a 70K sports coupe, but more people can afford a 30k mustang than can rival the performance of a euro sports coupe. That's what most people want.

The_Munk

You'll be surprised what some people can do with a shelby