But eventually it trickles down as such in the end !

 

Amen brother. The only reason I vote republican is because I know they are least likely to enact restrictive, draconian gun laws unlike the liberals. But I do so while holding my nose because frankly other than that they just flat suck as a party.

 

Too bad voodoo economics has nothing to do with engines

 

That is true, however the penalty is quite harsh...

For every 0.1 MPG below the CAFE standard that the whole vehicle fleet misses, Ford would be fined $5.50 per car they sell, total.

They sell 10 million cars a year, that is $55 million dollars for missing it by a tenth of a MPG.

Miss by 1 MPG and it is half a billion dollars...

It isn't worth it...

 

Something to keep in mind is that as the volume of V8 engines goes down, the R&D cost per engine goes up.

There comes a point where they aren't building enough of them to make continued development worthwhile.

Multiple people have said, "well, if they keep up with technology, we might well have a 40 MPG V8 in 10-20 years". Yes, that might be true if they "keep up with technology", but if they are putting their R&D dollars in the V6 EcoBoost, then that might not happen.

It costs a LOT of money to make a modern high power engine reliable.

Also, the CAFE standards are fleet wide, so selling a thousand V8 Mustangs isn't going to hurt Ford, but it also isn't profitable at anything other than crazy prices. They have to sell tens of thousands of V8 Mustangs to make it worthwhile.

If they miss the CAFE standards, the penalty is placed on every vehicle that Ford sells, not just the Mustang. I posted above what that is, $5.50 per vehicle, per tenth of a MPG missed.

 

My 2012 Yukon had it, it even had a small display on the dash that would tell you when it was in 4 cyl mode.

My 2015 Yukon has it as well, and most of the modern vehicles have it. My wife drove a Honda V6 the other day that had three modes. It could run with 3 cyl, with 4 cyl, or with 6cyl as was needed. The difference in MPG quoted from Honda by moving to a tri-mode engine from a dual one (just 3 or 6 cyl) was 1 MPG more overall.

1 MPG isn't a lot, until multipled times a million cars times 10K miles each per year, then it adds up. This is an example of a situation where the change makes little difference to you right now, but adds up to a lot over time for everyone.

If we all used 10% less gas tomorrow while driving the same amount, gas prices would come down. This helps everyone.

 

I don't know of anyone who owns or has owned a car with cylinder deactivation that ever liked that technology?

 

Yeah, also personally I want all 8 cylinders firing in case A prius gets in my way.

 

Make an override switch like traction control.

But on the freeway cruising why not only light 4?

 

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/01/for...p-v8-from.html

 

I agree Charlie but my statement was that people I personally have met do not like it and seem to have problems with those systems. :-)

 

But you still only need 4 cylinders to do that! :-)

 

Nice! I CAN breathe again.

 

MustangFreak makes a fair point. A 1988 4 banger Mustang with a hole in the exhaust manifold could take a Prius.

 

I should think that the displacement of the motor will have more to do with it's emissions than the number of cylinders it has firing. You can take a Cat C15, which is a TI6 14.67L engine and it certainly has more emissions than a 5.0 V8. If you assume the 6 or 4 banger is always smaller then sure. It's the amount of fuel being burned, not the number of cylinders you divide that fuel by.

The way I see it, your I4/V4 is inherently limited. I can't turn off part of the engine for efficiency because there is simply less to work with. These designs and regulations are going to paint an industry into a corner unless the super-fast uber batteries come along...

-CorwinSF

 

Haha yeah, but I want to scare them not just pass them

 

Definitely.

EDIT: Plus whether the engine is NA or forced induction. As the F150 guys report, they're not getting this great mileage out of the EBV6 compared to the 5.0V8 because the EB is under boost so often.

 

Ford Will not drop the V8 - Says Ford guy:

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/01/for...p-v8-from.html

-CorwinSF

 

Well now you do...

It doesn't effect the driving at all and the switch is instant, at least I can't tell when it is in 4 or 8 unless I'm looking at the display on the dash.

 

Yes, but while talking about the V8 and 2017, they were then asked about EcoBoost and the V8 and their reply was:

"CS: Will we see a production EcoBoost V8?

PS: We do not discuss future product"

So, either you do or you don't...

I would deny it as well, after all, they still have V8s to sell today...

I didn't post the origional news here, I don't have a dog in the fight other than to say I prefer the V8 myself. But lets be honest, the writing is on the wall... The V8 doesn't cost $6K more to make than the EcoBoost. Heck, the whole engine outright isn't $6K, but that is the upgrade cost.

What happens when it is $10K? At some point the sales volume will drop as the price increases and then it no longer becomes worth making.