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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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I still have this bad boy in my garage. 1989 Turbo Trans Am. Quickest production Trans Am ever produced!
But I will always like a V8 better then a V6 or a 4. You can't beat the sound or drive of a V8.
What an awesome car that TA was!! One of my all time favorites!!
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:22 PM
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But they don't have the range of a gasoline powered car. How many miles can you go on a full charge? How long to recharge? Batteries are for powering flashlights, not cars.
Teslas range is 300 miles.. Now. No reason to believe it won't go to 400 in ten years
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stam616
Teslas range is 300 miles.. Now. No reason to believe it won't go to 400 in ten years
Not real world. Trust me. Especially with how fast those cars are, no one on this site would drive them to 300mi a charge.

That said, if I were to give up a V8 Mustang, I'd rather it be all electric too, and only if they give me a manual transmission and loud, un-muffled motor sound to go with it. The electric motors can sound pretty trick, but it will never sound as good as a V8. The single speed electric cars just don't do it for me, as torquey and fast as they are. I want to be involved in the driving experience, with all limbs (as long as they all work).
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:56 PM
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Hyperdrive has it right. The Mustang will not survive 10 years from now if Ford doesn't adapt it to new technologies. The younger generations could care less about V8's, generally speaking. My only wish: that the Mustang, if it becomes all electric someday, stays expensive enough to avoid Prius owners from buying them. I'd hate to hate on a Mustang :-)
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by stam616
In all honesty if it's not a "fact" now it will be in a few years. Do you think the V8 would go on forever? If Ford or any other manufacturer could get amazing power out of a V8 yet produce 40MPG Highway don't you think they would?
I also remember from back in the mid 70's - early 80's that your average small block V8 could only produce up to 12-15MPG Highway if you were lucky enough.. Fast forward 30+years and now your average small block averages up to 25-30 MPG Highway, that in itself is pretty amazing..With technology rapidly advancing, I really don't believe it would be unrealistic for a modern small block V8 to achieve up to 40MPG Highway by 2025..

Heck I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see up to 35MPG as it currently is right now with the addition of direct injection

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 01:54 AM
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With technology rapidly advancing, I really don't believe it would be unrealistic for a modern small block V8 to achieve up to 40MPG Highway by 2025..
That might be the case, but keep in mind that they have to hit city/highway combined targets...

They need an EPA combined FLEET average in the 40ish range by 2025.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 03:24 AM
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This thread is real!?!??!?!?!! I woke up thinking it was a nightmare and it's still here.

Electric shmetric. I can't wait for spring so I can take the V8 out for a noisy cruise.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
This is what you people get for voting in Democrats and Rinos

I'm with you brotha!


HA, Ha, I've got mine, and I'm sticking with it for the duration! I love my V-8 6.0 Powerstroke too, the sixes pull good, but just don't have the soul of a V-8, even in DIESEL!

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:27 AM
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No reason Ford couldn't produce a small displacement ecoboost V8. If enough of us ***** and moan Ford will see the light. Remember - in the 80's Ford was ready to release a front wheel drive Stang until the Mustang community put a stop to it. So keep this thread going with the complaints. Ford is reading this stuff.
Two good articles.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ush-with-death

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...ost-a-mustang/

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 05:45 AM
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Seems like we have heard this in tha past and it did not happen. I'll believe it when it happens.

The sound of a V8 makes the V8. I was in the parking garage of a casino last night after a gig and I heard a V8, nice smooth deep tone. I looked over and it was a Hummer H2. But the sound was muscle and torque.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 88lx50
No reason Ford couldn't produce a small displacement ecoboost V8


I'm with you on this one.


I can see them getting smaller and more efficient, but not going away entirely.


4.0-4.4Eco V8 wouldn't be a bad thing
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:29 AM
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Ford will always make a v8. Just because they put a twin turbo V6 in both the raptor and GT doesn't mean they are killing off the v8. Look at the GT350 and GT350R. Have you heard those things?! It is a sound like no other. Would Ford consider replacing the GT with a TT v6 rather than a v8? I can see that. They could get 450hp easily out of the ecoboost v6 and call it a day. The v8s might be saved for cars like the GT350 or whatever comes in the future. There will always be a demand for v8 powered cars. Most of the younger generation might not care for v8s and such but there are a lot who grew up on them and I will make sure my children do so as well when I get my 2017 GT350R haha (maybe in my dreams)
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:29 AM
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Turbo 289 has a good ring to it....
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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Question I had this morining driving my coyote to work:

The coyote is still a new motor. Why would ford spend the time on R&D on a new motor like this if they knew they were going to stop making V8's soon. Couldn't they have just kept improving the 4.6 instead?

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthernStang79
Question I had this morining driver my coyote to work:

The coyote is still a new motor. Why would ford spend the time on R&D on a new motor like this if they knew they were going to stop making V8's soon. Couldn't they have just kept improving the 4.6 instead?


4.6 was around since early 90's in the Lincoln.
It wasn't a spring chicken by any means.


5L is so much more advanced.
I don't, and hope, to not see it go away in the near future.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:18 AM
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Raptor gets TTv6, GT gets TTv6... If there is going to be a gt500 i assume it will have a TTv6 as well.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:31 AM
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Isn't it possible that Ford would use a V6 and 4 in the production models. Then if you wanted a V8 you would have to go aftermarket like Shelby, Roush or Saleen?
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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Raptor gets TTv6, GT gets TTv6... If there is going to be a gt500 i assume it will have a TTv6 as well.
Sorry...GT500 will never get a V6.

These are all just a bunch of rumors that the sheeple/lemmings are diving off the cliff screaming.

Ford is not discontinuing the V8. It would be death to market share. Plus there not going to leave their SD/HD Chassis trucks with only a 6.7 V8 diesel as the only engine. I know many snow plow companies who only use gas engines as they are simple to maintain and always start in the -20* winters.

The Ford GT has no direct competition and they will sell every unit they make.

The Raptor has no direct competition and is more of a pavement pounder that will haul groceries more than race/baja

The Mustang line has ALOT of direct competition and would have a lot to lose if they did something as drastic as drop a V8 from the lineup. If they dropped the V8, many would laterally move to a Camaro, Challenger, etc... Ford wouldn't want to push customers into the other camp.

You think Chrysler is going to drop the HEMI?....No

You think GM is going to drop the LS/LT engines....No

Plus with oil/gas prices falling, and new elections coming for 2016, standards/laws will change. Get the government out of private business and let consumers drive the decisions.

The EB V6 lineup was years in the works and developed when gas was thought to go to $5-$6/gal. With the fall in prices, there will be a lag and if stays low, we will probably have a 750 HP TTV8 GT500 Hellcat killer in the future.

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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo302
Sorry...GT500 will never get a V6.

These are all just a bunch of rumors that the sheeple/lemmings are diving off the cliff screaming.

Ford is not discontinuing the V8. It would be death to market share. Plus there not going to leave their SD/HD Chassis trucks with only a 6.7 V8 diesel as the only engine. I know many snow plow companies who only use gas engines as they are simple to maintain and always start in the -20* winters.

The Ford GT has no direct competition and they will sell every unit they make.

The Raptor has no direct competition and is more of a pavement pounder that will haul groceries more than race/baja

The Mustang line has ALOT of direct competition and would have a lot to lose if they did something as drastic as drop a V8 from the lineup. If they dropped the V8, many would laterally move to a Camaro, Challenger, etc... Ford wouldn't want to push customers into the other camp.

You think Chrysler is going to drop the HEMI?....No

You think GM is going to drop the LS/LT engines....No

Plus with oil/gas prices falling, and new elections coming for 2016, standards/laws will change. Get the government out of private business and let consumers drive the decisions.

The EB V6 lineup was years in the works and developed when gas was thought to go to $5-$6/gal. With the fall in prices, there will be a lag and if stays low, we will probably have a 750 HP TTV8 GT500 Hellcat killer in the future.
I'm sure a lot of people would have said there is no way the Ford GT will get a TT V6...and it did. Its not to far fetched to think that the gt500 will go the same route. At this point its possible. I never said anything about them discontinuing it I just added that you have the "supertruck" Raptor getting a TTv6...previously supercharged. You have a Supercar in the GT that got a TTv6, that was previously a blown v8.... gt500...previously a blown v8.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 08:56 AM
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I only see stopping production of a v8 happening in the future if and only if GM and Chrysler go the same route.
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