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Old 1/13/15, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Freak
Ford has been competing with fewer cubic inches for decades now. They've trailed the size war but have for the most part stayed competitive. Now they've pulled ahead even with smaller motors so this really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Does this make me happy ummm heck no!!! :saddaysindeed:
That's all fine and dandy. The V8 doesn't have to die because of that. Simply make the fricken V8 smaller. It is really as simple as that. BMW and Mercedes have had 4.0L V8s for years. And just now they are adding turbos to them. That doesn't mean they don't offer V8s. There may be a 3-cylinder turbo as a base engine for the masses, but V8s are still offered.

Hell, put two fricken 2.3s together and you have a 4.6TT V8 for the GT500, two 2.0s together and you have a 4.0TT V8 for the GT. How does no one at Ford see that?

The government cannot fine them for selling V8s. That is EXTREMELY unconstitutional.
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I wouldn't trust horsepowerkings, they've been wrong plenty of times before.

Here's what they thought about the GT's powertrain

http://horsepowerkings.com/breaking-...return-lemans/

And another time:

https://www.facebook.com/HorsepowerK...09757662515956

Not that other sites don't spread false information, they just make some wild and wrong claims...

They're making this assumption from the GT and Raptor getting the V6. The GT from what I've read was supposed to have the V6 from the start. Not only is it a great engine, but using an Ecoboost in their (hopefully) Ferrari beating supercar is an amazing way to market the Ecoboost line.

The Raptor probably got the V6 because like the 6.2 was, the 3.5 is the top of the line engine.

Not to mention that Ford didn't put lots of money in to the 5.0 and 5.2 just to discontinue it in a few years. No one who I trust has said anything about this. The Coyote is here to stay for a while. I wouldn't listen to them.
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Originally Posted by zincmach1
I wouldn't trust horsepowerkings, they've been wrong plenty of times before. Here's what they thought about the GT's powertrain http://horsepowerkings.com/breaking-...return-lemans/ And another time: https://www.facebook.com/HorsepowerK...09757662515956 Not that other sites don't spread false information, they just make some wild and wrong claims... They're making this assumption from the GT and Raptor getting the V6. The GT from what I've read was supposed to have the V6 from the start. Not only is it a great engine, but using an Ecoboost in their (hopefully) Ferrari beating supercar is an amazing way to market the Ecoboost line. The Raptor probably got the V6 because like the 6.2 was, the 3.5 is the top of the line engine. Not to mention that Ford didn't put lots of money in to the 5.0 and 5.2 just to discontinue it in a few years. No one who I trust has said anything about this. The Coyote is here to stay for a while. I wouldn't listen to them.
It's certainly a possibility though. Isn't the requirement for all passenger cars average mpg to be like 50mpg by 2025 or something outrageous like that?
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If that is the case, wouldn't it then make sense to get a 2015 for the long term? I mean, if you really love the 06, then more power to you, just an idea...
Sure ! If I could afford to add a 2015 to my stable ? I'd love to have one, but I can't right now as I still have 2 years left on my wife's 2013 Escape before the lease is up.. And with a mortgage on top of that, there's just no way I could take on financing a second vehicle..
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Originally Posted by FlyTexas
http://www.freep.com/story/money/car...ptor/21623349/

The new Raptor and Ford GT are confirmed by Ford corporate to be V6 EcoBoost engines. They both have pages on Ford.com showing them off.
It's possible they're just getting added to the line up.. Does Ford.com actually mention anything about discontinuing the 5.0/5.2 in 2017 ?
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
It's possible they're just getting added to the line up.. Does Ford.com actually mention anything about discontinuing the 5.0/5.2 in 2017 ?
No to your second part, but to the first part - that is confirmed. The Ford GT supercar and Raptor are 3.5TT only...
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Originally Posted by laserred38
It's certainly a possibility though. Isn't the requirement for all passenger cars average mpg to be like 50mpg by 2025 or something outrageous like that?
Sort of, I believe the standard for CAFE MPG's are different then what you see on the window sticker. So in reality the 50MPG CAFE standard is closer to 40 MPG's. Here's a quote from C&D


Third, CAFE mpg is very different from the fuel-economy-label mpg numbers on every new car. That’s because the CAFE figures are based on the original city and highway fuel-economy tests established in the Seventies, while the window-sticker numbers combine those values, along with the results of three other emissions tests, to produce mpg figures that better-match real-world driving. In general, the combined mpg on a vehicle’s label is about 20 percent lower than the CAFE mpg.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...ations-feature


Here's another good article


http://www.forbes.com/sites/michelin...u-might-think/


I believe there's quite a few determining factors on the standard like the company itself, type of vehicle etc.


It's true that Ford is phasing out most of their V8 line up. I just don't think they are planning to phase out all of them just yet. I think as long as Ford keeps selling their Ecoboost and other high fuel mileage vehicles we may still see V8's around, maybe in smaller numbers though.
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I've been saying that the CAFE standards and gov't auto regulations are going to stomp enthusiasts in the throat before long so this news isn't a complete shock to me, if true. It's like in the early 1970s when people were appalled at the crappy cars Detroit produced. Hey, fool me once, but having seen this movie before I'm glad I bought a 2012 GT when I did.
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Never heard of horsepower kings. Article has been pulled down (as of 530 CT on 1/13). Call me a skeptic...
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Never heard of horsepower kings. Article has been pulled down (as of 530 CT on 1/13). Call me a skeptic...
The site has often been considered click bait and some forums like Mustang6g and SVT Performance outright block the site. It's just another reason why everyone should ignore what they say.
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I had no plans of keeping my 2014 forever, but now...
Same here. I've never had a desire to own a Mustang without a V8. I hope this is false!
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The 2015 Lincoln Navigator only comes
With an ecoboost.
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This is what you people get for voting in Democrats and Rinos
Three things.

1. 2k is 100% right. This is what happens when you vote a bunch of liberals into office who have been trying their best to make everyone in America take the bus for the last 40 years. They despise personal transportation and they especially despise personal transportation that allows the common man to drive anything better than a POS Corolla.


2. I can't help but see the humor in this. All the talk about how the V6 Mustang was going to go away and as it turns out the GT will likely become a V6 car.


3. It is a bitter sweet pill because the V8 in the GT is such a wonderful engine. It sounds like God screaming at wide open throttle. It is an experience like nothing else to put your foot into a Mustang GT off the line and feel that surge of power accompanied by that howl of menace and destruction that it promises.
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Hey the reptards are in control now!!!


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It's definitely a trend, for all auto makers, but I'm sure that the big three will keep a few nuggets around. An American V8 holds too much nostalgia... Fed Regs notwithstanding.
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I wish I could travel back in time. So glad I was able to buy my '14 GT when I did. Just the thought of not having a V8 sickens me. Screw the EPA.
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Originally Posted by Blue Notch
I wish I could travel back in time. So glad I was able to buy my '14 GT when I did. Just the thought of not having a V8 sickens me. Screw the EPA.
This.
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Originally Posted by SteelTownStang
It's definitely a trend, for all auto makers, but I'm sure that the big three will keep a few nuggets around. An American V8 holds too much nostalgia... Fed Regs notwithstanding.
GT350, Shelby stuff, Roush stuff and other models situated above the GT will very likely keep the V8. But I could see Ford putting the V6 ecoboost in the GT. It sounds just like the prevailing thought process within the company and the car industry in general right now.

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