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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I doubt it. The COPO was a production race car and the Nova was barely a sports car. Even the SS was only a small block and not built well. Think Yenko only did one after 68. The baby nova really was a POS and still is until you replace the front cradle and reinforce the rest of the body.
Actually they did Al. Out of curiosity I did some digging and found this.

http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...-nova-ss-copo/

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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Just drainage issues. Sealed quarters and doors at the bottom that just held water in the corners. Plus the steel was cheap. I'm amazed looking at the 50's big fender cars and how well the original sheet metal still holds up compared to the 60's cars. A lot of the 50's cars didn't have an inner layer welded to the quarters.
Compared with the 50's cars, yes ! steel quality was most definitely cheaper and becoming lighter in order to reduce weight.. Where as the big fender cars of the 50's used thicker quality grade steel that didn't need those inner layers welded to the quarter panels.. It's no wonder why the original sheet metal on those cars held up so well..

Just like the saying goes, "They sure don't make em like they used to "
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
Actually they did Al. Out of curiosity I did some digging and found this. http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...-nova-ss-copo/
That's a 68. Not the novas I was talking about but good to know anyways.
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
That's a 68. Not the novas I was talking about but good to know anyways.
Ah, I was asking about Nova's in general, not a specific set of years.
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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Talking about Novas, here was a Bill Thomas Nova of my uncles...was cream of the crop!

http://www.hotrod.com/features/histo...s-nova-ss-427/


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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by berzerk_1980
Not trying to be sarcastic... but are there really correct and incorrect ways to use a wrench?
For sure! It's amazing watching rookies or someone who has never wrenched try to remove a seized or really stuck bolt.

You see them go gonzo on them and twist all sorts of funny ways until they break

It's all about the finesse
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo302
For sure! It's amazing watching rookies or someone who has never wrenched try to remove a seized or really stuck bolt. You see them go gonzo on them and twist all sorts of funny ways until they break It's all about the finesse
Nah. It's just about experience. You have to break a few first before you know better. Getting a broken bolt out is even more fun. Lol
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Nah. It's just about experience. You have to break a few first before you know better. Getting a broken bolt out is even more fun. Lol
I remember the first time I worked out a really stubborn old bolt and then made the mistake of touching it. That left a nice little mark.
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Compared with the 50's cars, yes ! steel quality was most definitely cheaper and becoming lighter in order to reduce weight.. Where as the big fender cars of the 50's used thicker quality grade steel that didn't need those inner layers welded to the quarter panels.. It's no wonder why the original sheet metal on those cars held up so well..

Just like the saying goes, "They sure don't make em like they used to "
I can attest to that. When I was real young my Dad had a Chieftan. 55 or 56 (With a V8 of course ).
I remember how hard it was to lift the hood. Which had to be done often because the choke would stick. I remember him cussing it on winter mornings. rofl


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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Getting a broken bolt out is even more fun. Lol
Center punch and hammer stuff. To 'unthread' it until you can get vice grips on it.

Originally Posted by Turbo302

It's all about the finesse
I've got the 'feel'.

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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
I can attest to that. When I was real young my Dad had a Chieftan. 55 or 56 (With a V8 of course ). I remember how hard it was to lift the hood. Which had to be done often because the choke would stick. I remember him cussing it on winter mornings. rofl .
Those are real nice cars but those eyebrows always ruined the whole car for me. The 55 Buick will be my next toy. Might have to put it off a couple years but yes I will have one.
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I doubt it. The COPO was a production race car and the Nova was barely a sports car. Even the SS was only a small block and not built well. Think Yenko only did one after 68. The baby nova really was a POS and still is until you replace the front cradle and reinforce the rest of the body.
Yes, there were some COPO Novas. As a matter of fact, there was one recently auctioned off up in New Jersey that had been seized from some derelict thug.
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
Yes, there were some COPO Novas. As a matter of fact, there was one recently auctioned off up in New Jersey that had been seized from some derelict thug.
I'm not positive but I believe Chevy started the COPO program in 69. I don't remember seeing anything before that.
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I'm not positive but I believe Chevy started the COPO program in 69. I don't remember seeing anything before that.

http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...-nova-ss-copo/


And I think the handful of Yenko Novas came from the same deal.
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Old Jan 31, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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I knew about the Yenko Nova's being in existence but wasn't quite sure about the COPO Nova's though

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