'13-14 Cluster into '10-12 car (with TrackApps) retrofit

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Dec 18, 2015 | 09:21 AM

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LEXiiON

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Originally Posted by DeeJayTJ

Thank you VERY much!

You wouldnt have a pinout diagram for Connector C4368B would you?

I've only got a pinout diagram for C4368A :-/

here we go

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Dec 18, 2015 | 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LEXiiON

here we go

LEXiiON

wow awesome LOL THANK YOU! I'll stop hijacking this thread now. Thanks again!

Jan 6, 2016 | 08:04 PM

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RusWolf

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Hello all!
Found this thread on this forum and made an account. I'm an active member on SVTP with the same screen name.

I don't have time to go through 112 page so i would appreciate if you guys would just tell me a BLUF.

1) I have a 2011 Premium, would love to retrofit 13-14 GT500 cluster with track apps. Any known issues specifically on 11's?
2) Can someone post a list of ALL parts needed? That would be MUCH appreciated.

3) Will any new functions unlock after good installation?

If that matters my audio set up is stock Shaker 500. (i mention this is becasue on few pages i see people mentioning IDS flashing, so not sure if IDS is maestro IDS kit or something else.)

I realized\ cluster is needed, ebay doesnt have any at least today so if anything i'll get one from a dealer online.

Also from quickly reading, do i need to give them 13-14 GT500's VIN or any 13-14 VIN with trackapps?

This swap would be great!
My car is slightly modded already so the cluster would kind of set off the interior and i think would look cool with rev gauges on the ipad in the car.

Last edited by RusWolf; Jan 6, 2016 at 08:11 PM.

Jan 6, 2016 | 09:04 PM

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RusWolf

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And i think i just answered all of these questions by finding another thread.. lol...

However, i would still appreciate it if someone answers my questions.

rewiring may take time...

anyone on the northeast done this?

Last edited by RusWolf; Jan 6, 2016 at 09:32 PM.

Jan 7, 2016 | 07:46 AM

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DeeJayTJ

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there is a sticky about this or atleast about most of it.

Feb 25, 2017 | 11:36 AM

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BALIZTIK

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Anyone in California able to help me do this? Willing to pay.

Jun 12, 2020 | 04:52 PM

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JonCal Tovar

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how do i contact you to get the mod for OK switch?

Jun 12, 2020 | 05:10 PM

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JonCal Tovar

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How do i get the mod for the OK button to work on gauge cluster swap. Zeros inbox is full lol. Please contact me 915 478 2440

Jun 13, 2020 | 05:29 PM

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Zero Aviation is no longer a member and has long since disappeared. Your best bet is to either redo the resistors as I had shown in the 5 way switch or to program your PCM to that of a 2013/14 car.

Jun 13, 2020 | 05:31 PM

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jim010

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Check the other stickied thread for how to do this.

Jun 14, 2020 | 11:32 AM

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Kona12GT

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How do i get the mod for the OK button to work on gauge cluster swap. Zeros inbox is full lol. Please contact me 915 478 2440

check Facebook for a company called “arcanep2”. I think I had heard from somewhere that he has something to do with it.

Jun 15, 2020 | 01:17 PM

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Well, the guy's name is Matt Honeycutt, and he uses the zeroaviation username for alot of things, so you could try and track him down that way.

If you do get a hold of him, tell him I want my cluster back!!

Jul 28, 2020 | 09:23 AM

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GoldenStang

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I swipe my 2010 GT500 Cluster to 2013, but I can't see Boost & oil pressure.

Can you help me it?

Nov 19, 2022 | 01:39 PM

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Dawson Skelley

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Originally Posted by jim010

OK, here it is:

2012

-to the clockspring (c2274a)

Pin 1 - airbag driver 1
pin 2 - airbag driver 2
Pin 3 - unused
Pin 4 - switch Audio w/ SYNC 2 -
Pin 5 - ground cross car beam
Pin 6 - switch Audio /w SYNC 2 +
Pin 7 - unused
Pin 8 - horn
Pin 9 - airbag driver 1
Pin 10 - airbag driver 2
Pin 11 - unused
Pin 12 - switch audio 1 -
Pin 13 - switch audio 1 +
Pin 14 - cruise control command return
Pin 15 - cruise control command
Pin 16 - illumination

2013

-to the clockspring (c2274a)

Pin 1 - airbag driver 1
pin 2 - airbag driver 2
Pin 3 - switch info
Pin 4 - switch Audio w/ SYNC 2 -
Pin 5 - ground cross car beam
Pin 6 - switch Audio /w SYNC 2 +
Pin 7 - unused
Pin 8 - horn
Pin 9 - airbag driver 1
Pin 10 - airbag driver 2
Pin 11 - switch info
Pin 12 - switch audio 1 -
Pin 13 - switch audio 1 +
Pin 14 - cruise control command return
Pin 15 - cruise control command
Pin 16 - illumination

2012

-from clockspring (c2274a) to clockspring (c2274b)

Pin 1 - horn
Pin 2 - unused
Pin 3 - bluetooth
Pin 4 - ground cross car beam
Pin 5 - climate sensors and generic vref return in logistical schematics
Pin 6 - unused
Pin 7 - illumination
Pin 8 - cruise control command
Pin 9 - cruise control command return
Pin 10 - audio pwr
Pin 11 - audio return
Pin 12 - unused

2013

-from clockspring (c2274a) to clockspring (c2274b)

Pin 1 - horn
Pin 2 - unused
Pin 3 - bluetooth
Pin 4 - ground cross car beam
Pin 5 - bluetooth return
Pin 6 - switch info
Pin 7 - illumination
Pin 8 - cruise control command
Pin 9 - cruise control command return
Pin 10 - audio pwr
Pin 11 - audio return
Pin 12 - switch info

2012

- from clockspring (c2274b) to left steering wheel switches (c2998)

Pin 1 - illumination
Pin 2 - cruise control command
Pin 3 - cruise control command return
Pin 4 - ground cross car beam
Pin 5 - horn
Pin 6 - unused
Pin 7 - unused
Pin 8 - unused
Pin 9 - unused
Pin 10 - unused

2013

- from clockspring (c2274b) to left steering wheel switches (c2998)

Pin 1 - cruise control command return
Pin 2 - switch info
Pin 3 - switch info
Pin 4 - unused
Pin 5 - unused
Pin 6 - ground
Pin 7 - cruise control command
Pin 8 - illumination
Pin 9 - unused
Pin 10 - unused

So what are the exact steps to get the dpad to work in the 11-12 cars?

Nov 21, 2022 | 07:46 PM

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Daniel Tellez

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawson Skelley

So what are the exact steps to get the dpad to work in the 11-12 cars?

I just did the swap on an 11 today, you CAN use the INFO RESET SETUP BUTTONS to control the ok is done by tapping setup multiple times. Reset is right setup one click is down and Info + Setup is back.

Dec 30, 2022 | 04:27 PM

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jim010

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You can also take the d pad from a 13-14 and change the resistors in it to work. There is a post in the other thread somewhere on which resistors need to be changed. But really, the best thing to do is to program the car's computer to thinking it is a 2013 car. Then everything gets unlocked and works properly. Oh, and you need the abs module as well to get track apps to work.

Good luck

Jan 1, 2023 | 02:16 PM

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Berlioz

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Originally Posted by jim010

Prior to the new year I had an issue that CC did not engage what so ever, and that the only thing that I could get to work was the DPad under certain circumstances. If I do NOT flash to a 2013 PCM (I have a 2011), then the CC light will not turn on, but that will also require me to essentially tune the engine due to the 2013 PCM having different tables than the 2011 in regards to engine performance. With respect to doing this retrofit, I've read most of the instructions from this thread (https://themustangsource.com/forums/...luster-529167/)

I've managed to get the D-Pad & Cruise Control to turn on (without flashing PCM, so currently the CC Light will not illuminate). The problem I ran into the first time was that my soldering job was an abomination. I ended up buying a heat pencil from amazon, used solder paste to put the SMD resistors on, and it worked. The right tool for the right job, ya know?

Here's the layout for the pins and everything (image below)

Here are the resistors required (2.00x1.25mm):
2200 Ohm: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...02K2L/14286388
1500 Ohm: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...071K5L/5896629
300 Ohm: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...7300RL/5896755
Jumper: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...R-070RL/728216

Last edited by Berlioz; Jan 8, 2023 at 06:58 PM. Reason: Issue Resolved

Feb 26, 2023 | 10:39 AM

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3vClifford

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Will this guide work on a 2010? I am attempting to get my button swap working with the 2013 cluster I installed.

May 24, 2024 | 03:45 AM

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Mitka

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Gentlemen,
What pins did you use to reconnect wires in clockspring switches and light switch?

Last edited by Mitka; May 24, 2024 at 12:27 PM.

May 24, 2024 | 05:53 AM

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Mitka

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Another issue I came across when installing 2013 premium cluster into 2010 premium car is that I have OIL CHANGE REQUIRED message every time I start the car. Oil life reset doesn't help.
The thing is that I did not put any additional wires from light switch to cluster (C220), I have connected light switch directly to clockspring switch on the wheel from the cluster side. Can it be the reason? Please help

Cruise control does not work also.