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Old 1/19/16, 08:17 AM
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the sweet sound of hard work pays off.


Congratulation to you and your team.


Excellent work gentlemen!!


I truly hope that's not the end of this thread. I look so forward to reading your progress and watching the build.

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Originally Posted by boss man
I truly hope that's not the end of this thread. I look so forward to reading your progress and watching the build.
Thanks everyone!!!

No way this is the end of the thread. I suspect another year before I'm completely finished with the car. It will have an engine rebuild to get to 1000 hp and 2015 IRS in its future.
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Originally Posted by laserred38
The Escape is FWD/AWD transverse already, and at least from the cars that had 3.0s and 3.5s, the mounting points were the same. The Fusion had 3.0s and 3.5s from 10-12, so I'm hoping that 3.5 is similar to any from the Edge and Flex that were available with AWD. My Escape is AWD, so I'm hoping that everything would bolt right up to the current driveline. I stopped researching when everyone gave up due to having to account for VVT-i, and my current engine not having it.

But, after seeing yours running, I would bet these guys could get it going!
If the n/a 3.5 bolts in then the 3.5 ecoboost should too. If you can I would buy a wrecked flex rollover or rear end collision so that you can get everything you need. All the small parts really add up fast. You need the PCM and wiring harness for sure. You might could get lucky if they have the same BCM or at least similar. This is where I would start, if the BCM is the same or uses similar plugs it would make the swap much much easier.
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Originally Posted by GLOCKer
YES!!! She sounds great! Kind of sounds like a mid level exotic (thinking GTR again). I love it! It sounds like muscle but a different kind of muscle than most people are used to hearing. Do me a favor; if you have a GoPro, set up and shoot one like this video I did to hear my exhaust. Once you get back on the road that is!
I can do that!

Thanks I do really like the sound too. You don't really notice it in the video but you can hear the turbos through the exhaust, I bet while under load you can really hear them.
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Congrats! Can't wait to see how it runs down-the-road! Sounds great!

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Hi Walt and welcome! I wanted to thank you again for your suggestions to get the car started, they were absolutely helpful!
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Originally Posted by Ecostang
If the n/a 3.5 bolts in then the 3.5 ecoboost should too. If you can I would buy a wrecked flex rollover or rear end collision so that you can get everything you need. All the small parts really add up fast. You need the PCM and wiring harness for sure. You might could get lucky if they have the same BCM or at least similar. This is where I would start, if the BCM is the same or uses similar plugs it would make the swap much much easier.
Yeah back before I had my 14 GT, I wanted to do the 3.5TT just because. Really though, I don't think this chassis can handle that much power and then I know I'd want to turn it up too lol. I'd be happy with 250-300hp in this thing! I was looking at wrecked Flex's and Edges a while back...they're pretty cheap
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Originally Posted by laserred38
Yeah back before I had my 14 GT, I wanted to do the 3.5TT just because. Really though, I don't think this chassis can handle that much power and then I know I'd want to turn it up too lol. I'd be happy with 250-300hp in this thing! I was looking at wrecked Flex's and Edges a while back...they're pretty cheap
Shouldn't it be a lot easier to tune the 3.0 24V up to 250-300hp? Doesn't that thing already has 240hp factory? Remember there is a lot to do if you want to get it to run like factory, if the engine was never intended for that vehicle.

Just a thought..

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Shouldn't it be a lot easier to tune the 3.0 24V up to 250-300hp? Doesn't that thing already has 240hp factory? Remember there is a lot to do if you want to get it to run like factory, if the engine was never intended for that vehicle.

Just a thought..

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I have an 05, that was the first 3.0, was 200/190 stock, but mine is nowhere near that anymore. It's got minor leaks, needs spark plugs, needs new cats. I've also consider the 3.0 out of the 09-12 Escape, which also has the same 6spd auto as the Edge, but I figure if I'm going through all the trouble, may as well get a 3.5 if it's around the same cost and doing almost all of the same work.

If I do end up starting that project, I'll start another thread though, don't want to clutter yours up with my hopes and dreams bahaha!
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I have an 05, that was the first 3.0, was 200/190 stock, but mine is nowhere near that anymore. It's got minor leaks, needs spark plugs, needs new cats. I've also consider the 3.0 out of the 09-12 Escape, which also has the same 6spd auto as the Edge, but I figure if I'm going through all the trouble, may as well get a 3.5 if it's around the same cost and doing almost all of the same work.

If I do end up starting that project, I'll start another thread though, don't want to clutter yours up with my hopes and dreams bahaha!
That makes a difference then. But be aware that a lot of the electronics might be completely different... probably quite similar to what Ecostang has to go through... and don't ask how many hours i clocked so far in his garage... and we are far from done yet...
so make sure you read a lot of wiring diagrams before you start going after the swap

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I feel like you need a team of people to accomplish this swap unless you are good at everything. Help on a forum is nice but boots on the ground is the only way to get this done in a timely manner. I would suspect 6-12 months of nights and weekends to pull it off. For a person that loves the work this is ok, but if you don't enjoy it then this could be a miserable project. If I had to figure out the electrical myself that would have made this much much harder. I probably would have found an electrical engineer that would work for cheap to help me out, preferably one that likes to work on cars.

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Just a reminder for anyone wanting to swap a 3.5L EB into a RWD application, the F150 3.5L EB is the engine you want. Any of the FWD 3.5L EB engines, even the AWD ones, will have a completely different rear-face-of-block, so they will not bolt up to RWD transmissions.

The 3.5 and 3.5 EB FWD engines have a unique FROB bolt pattern, not like any other ford FWD engines.

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Originally Posted by Ecostang
I can do that!

Thanks I do really like the sound too. You don't really notice it in the video but you can hear the turbos through the exhaust, I bet while under load you can really hear them.
Congratulations on getting her started! The turbo whistle was the first thing I picked up on. I just love hearing those 3.5 turbos sing. Makes me want to get a better exhaust for my 3.5.
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Congrats Ecostang


I've been following this since the first post


I feel like I'm involved from a distance with every post you make
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Congratulations on getting her started! The turbo whistle was the first thing I picked up on. I just love hearing those 3.5 turbos sing. Makes me want to get a better exhaust for my 3.5.
Thanks, ya this mustang sounds much better than my stock truck exhaust.

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Congrats Ecostang


I've been following this since the first post


I feel like I'm involved from a distance with every post you make
Thanks Mike!
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Thanks, ya this mustang sounds much better than my stock truck exhaust.Thanks Mike!
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That's Gary, but you can call him whatever you want
Hey

It's Mike Honcho

And I spread my butt cheeks for play girl

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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
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It's Mike Honcho

And I spread my butt cheeks for play girl

Haha, ok Gary

Edit: After doing a quick google search I realized why that name seemed familiar to me! Lmao

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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Hey

It's Mike Honcho

And I spread my butt cheeks for play girl

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First of all, congratulations. Hard work does pay off!

Secondly, the exhaust sounds a bit quiet, are the CATS present and the Headers stock?

GT500 quad exhaust right?
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First of all, congratulations. Hard work does pay off!

Secondly, the exhaust sounds a bit quiet, are the CATS present and the Headers stock?

GT500 quad exhaust right?
Thanks

It's got factory ecoboost exhaust manifolds where the turbos are mounted. From the exhaust manifolds back to the mufflers is bbk 2.75" x-pipe with high-flow 3" cats and no resonators in the mid pipes. The mufflers are stock gt500 quad tips.

It's just missing 2 cylinders

I'm happy with the amount of noise it makes, it's not ricey which I was more worried about. Plus it's supposed to be a sleeper!


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