GottaHaveIt

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Adrian

Join Date: September 8, 2009
Location: Flagstaff AZ
Car: Mustang GT
Posts: 273

houtex

Then this is a class actionable suit problem. Their technique causes the issue, therefore, it's a negligence issue, and as such, no owner should have to endure paying for the repair on a factory paint job when the shoddy, lazy factory painting process produces the issue. Thank you for this information.

As such, Ford should offer to *properly repaint*, for free, one time, any hood on any S197 that is found to produce the problem per the TSB, if they are out of warranty.

I would fall into that category, btw...

I don't suppose you have any hard evidence or documentation regarding this statement, do you?

GottaHaveIt

like pic's before I had mine fixed , at least I think it was.

John in MD

I have a 2004 Honda S2000 that has an aluminum hood. I've got 45,000 on it and have no paint issues, of course the car is parked when the weather is bad. I hope Ford gets this figured out, I'm looking at switching to a Mustang later this year.

orange3.9stang

They need to go back to a Composite (plastic/fiberglass) hood like the '94-04. '99-04 took it one step further and had a Composite trunk lid too. I was quite pleased with these panels !!

Sure it would be a little heavier than the aluminum one and maybe cost a bit more, but not having to deal with warrenty corrosion issues and p*ssed-off customers would be well worth it.

After 16 years and 340k miles of year-round driving SN-95's, I can't wait to deal with this on my new '11 !!

Doug

GottaHaveIt

Lookin forward to your report in the near future Doug ! With any luck they'll have it figured out by then.

houtex

Not that that'll be nifty... but what does that do for me and others like me with the current Al hoods?

orange3.9stang

I'm 99.9% sure Ford still has the AL hood on the '10 and the '11 too, and I'm pretty sure they don't plan on switching back anytime soon due to the weight penalty.

They sure bragged up all the PRO's on the switch from Composite to Aluminum hood swap in 2005 !! Only PRO I saw was the lighter weight, everything else about it had me concerned and rightly so after reading through this NINE PAGE thread !!

Doug

orange3.9stang

Whatever changes Ford has done to the hoods between 2005 and 2011 to eliminate the problem is probably pretty minimal ...we'll see.
I was seriously considering putting a :gay:hood deflector on my '11 to cut down on the stone chips durring the winter. But I think this could make matters worse for the hood edge by trapping moisture right where the problem is.

I wonder if you could mask-off and spray some bed-liner or something similar on this underside area to permanently seal it off and protect it ... hmmmmm ??

Then do the typical 3M clear bra on the top side of hood and fenders to protect from the stone chips.

Doug

GottaHaveIt

2005 to 2011 my car is an 07 GT/CS & I got it ! or had it !

jim010

My corrosion warranty is up in a month, and I also have rust bubbles on my hood lip.

I am phoning around and getting different answers, but all say no coverage unless it is perforated.

For those that got them to do this for them, what exactly do I need to know and say to them to get them to fix this?

Cheers

Cavero

Mine started a year ago, and now it's spread from the underside to the front where you can see it. This is rediculous on a 4 year old car! My dealer originally told me to write a letter to Ford, and thought I' dhave some luck getting them to pay for a repaint. I never got around to writing it because I honestly didn't think it'd work.

houtex

I just sent them an inquiry. Let's see how long it takes them to respond, shall we?

RCSignals

What would you have to lose by writing the letter? You've defeated yourself before getting started.

houtex

Well, not really. Ford has replied to my inquiry thusly:

"Tough. Suck it."

Well, they didn't actually use those words, they used a whole lot of other ones, some completely unlrelated to the topic (I'm not real sure, for example, what the NHTSA has to do with this, but whatever.)

It was very polite, as was I, and in two responses, I got one of two questions answered:

1) "Is it an acceptable industry standard for paint on aluminum body panels to bubble up and fall off after 3-4 years?" - Unknown.

2) "Is is acceptable that the owner is responsible for a BAD FACTORY PAINT JOB?" - Yes.

Again, a *whole* lotta mellifluous words were used, but that's the bottom line: "Tough. Suck it."

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And with that, I just wrote off future Ford buying. Quality isn't Job 1, or I wouldn't have bubbles. Screw 'em.

/will enjoy my car nonetheless, but it will be the last late model Ford I ever buy... as of this writing, pending them fixing it if they choose to.
//If we have to sue them? No dice, I'm out.
///overreacting? Hardly. Not the first non-quality Ford issue I've had with them... kinda tired of it.

RCSignals

Have you posted photos of your bubbling?
Actually your dealer should be able to help some with this as well. It's in their interest too to keep you as a returning customer.

UnrealFord

I cant believe you guys are having trouble having this fixed. I know several people that had there hoods fixed from Ford for free !!.... Its a engineering process mistake like the post from sombody above..
If I can be any help with proof from other who had this fixed let me know..

houtex

Ok, I'm lettin' ya know: You can be of some help. Could ya just post it here anyway? We'd all be so very grateful, I'm sure. I know I would be.

jim010

Yes, please post. I need the help too.

houtex

Paint just flaked off the top side of the center of the rear lip area of her hood... That so sucks, y'all. Factory paint that sucks is... sucky.

Well, actually, it doesn't suck, because if it did, it would still be there.

Sigh...