Where does the 2013 GT 5.0 get the extra 8 horsepower?

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Dec 8, 2011 | 07:56 AM

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MRGTX

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So we still don't know?

Dec 8, 2011 | 07:57 AM

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AzPete

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Nope.....BIG secret according to some.....

Dec 8, 2011 | 10:01 AM

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Nope.....BIG secret according to some.....

Just using this as an example, but:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-bump-car-news

It's fairly obvious that the 5.0L was rather conservatively rated at 412HP.

Dec 16, 2011 | 03:03 PM

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The secret is out. The 8 hp was there the whole time. Unless someone can prove otherwise.

Dec 17, 2011 | 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReaper

The secret is out. The 8 hp was there the whole time. Unless someone can prove otherwise.

anyone??? ^ otherwise he's right..

Dec 17, 2011 | 03:56 AM

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This is still a discussion? Wow. The "answers" were posted a while ago.

- not just the tune
- not a re-certification
- internal changes realized from the Boss 302/Road Runner motor development

Dec 17, 2011 | 07:09 AM

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did n't see it.. do u know hat kind of internal changes?

Dec 17, 2011 | 07:24 AM

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This is still a discussion? Wow. The "answers" were posted a while ago.

- not just the tune
- not a re-certification
- internal changes realized from the Boss 302/Road Runner motor development

Yes. This was said earlier in the thread by a moderator but he either doesn't actually know this or is enjoying kowing something that "we all" don't...

Dec 17, 2011 | 12:35 PM

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What internal changes ? Does anyone know ?

Dec 17, 2011 | 01:41 PM

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Ford isn't giving details because the truth is that there being conservative with the 412. Until someone can prove otherwise that's it.

Dec 17, 2011 | 01:45 PM

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What internal changes ? Does anyone know ?

It has something to do with reducing friction. Something they learned from the Boss program.

Dec 17, 2011 | 01:47 PM

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Ford isn't giving details because the truth is that there being conservative with the 412. Until someone can prove otherwise that's it.

Why do you say that? There have been several stock 5.0's dyno tested, and 412 horsepower appears to be an accurate rating. Just because Ford lumps all of the improvements under the "lessons learned from the Roadrunner (Boss) program" umbrella, and doesn't list them individually, that doesn't mean there weren't modifications made to the engine's internals. I'm sure we'll all learn soon enough when certain shops around the country get their hands on the 2013 GT Mustangs.

Dec 17, 2011 | 02:16 PM

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I would bet you cash money that there are no actual changes between the 2012 and 2013 5.0L.

And I'm not a betting man.

Dec 17, 2011 | 02:20 PM

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Lot of camaro5 spies trying to learn Ford trade secrets.

Dec 17, 2011 | 02:27 PM

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I would bet you cash money that there are no actual changes between the 2012 and 2013 5.0L.

And I'm not a betting man.

Pay up sucka.

Dec 17, 2011 | 03:20 PM

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Pay up sucka.

I wait with bated breath for someone to officially prove me wrong, but that won't happen, because they didn't change anything.

Dec 17, 2011 | 03:25 PM

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I wait with bated breath for someone to officially prove me wrong, but that won't happen, because they didn't change anything.

Once the info is public, it'll get posted here. Hope you like crow.

Dec 17, 2011 | 03:29 PM

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I follow this for fun.....but I cannot believe there is such secrecy in an 8 hp increase.......lol.

Dec 17, 2011 | 03:31 PM

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I follow this for fun.....but I cannot believe there is such secrecy in an 8 hp increase.......lol.

I don't think it's secrecy so much as a lack of publication of the details just yet. Hopefully at the NAIAS they dive a little further into the '13 car and explain things better.