5.0 is Back: 2011 GT Leads Class With 412 HP, Fuel Efficiency, Chassis Dynamics
My rationale makes all the sense in the world to the only person that really matters ... ME ... and yes I would pay the $1-K instead that way I can force FORD to live with it not being there as opposed to me having to live with something I dont want, unnecessarily drove the cost of the car up, and probably doesn't do half of what it's intended to do anyway, other than being a 100% PITA.
Sure would ... like I said ... I dont believe in "skip-shifts", cylinder deactivation, "information systems", radio controls on the steering wheel and any of that other crap neither, so why wouldn't I take the lesser of 2 evils as I see it?
Why should I pay $30-K for a Mustang or any other car with another added incovenience?
I'd gladly pay an extra $1-K just for them to keep all that BS off the car in the first place. Speaking of principle; they should cut $1-K off the price after deletng all that mess to make up for the difference of the GG tax.
The only positive thing I see out of this development is it does have more "factory" power which comes from a bigger bore instead of just arriving at the 5.0 size by merely adding a longer stroke. I am glad however to see they finally, after all these years, went to an electronic PS pump.
All in all ... I'd be happier if they just brought the Terminator back out again and we could choose between that and the GT-500.
Sure would ... like I said ... I dont believe in "skip-shifts", cylinder deactivation, "information systems", radio controls on the steering wheel and any of that other crap neither, so why wouldn't I take the lesser of 2 evils as I see it?
Why should I pay $30-K for a Mustang or any other car with another added incovenience?
I'd gladly pay an extra $1-K just for them to keep all that BS off the car in the first place. Speaking of principle; they should cut $1-K off the price after deletng all that mess to make up for the difference of the GG tax.
The only positive thing I see out of this development is it does have more "factory" power which comes from a bigger bore instead of just arriving at the 5.0 size by merely adding a longer stroke. I am glad however to see they finally, after all these years, went to an electronic PS pump.
All in all ... I'd be happier if they just brought the Terminator back out again and we could choose between that and the GT-500.
Why should I pay $30-K for a Mustang or any other car with another added incovenience?
I'd gladly pay an extra $1-K just for them to keep all that BS off the car in the first place. Speaking of principle; they should cut $1-K off the price after deletng all that mess to make up for the difference of the GG tax.
The only positive thing I see out of this development is it does have more "factory" power which comes from a bigger bore instead of just arriving at the 5.0 size by merely adding a longer stroke. I am glad however to see they finally, after all these years, went to an electronic PS pump.
All in all ... I'd be happier if they just brought the Terminator back out again and we could choose between that and the GT-500.
Last edited by stangfoeva; Dec 31, 2009 at 12:15 PM.
How you spend your money is up to you.
As far as having more money than brains ... I'm not going to be put in the position where I have to pay GG tax in the first place. I just won't buy the car.
Well, as it's been said, it's only going to get more and more tech added in the future. If you want a 'dumb' car, you're gonna have to go used.
If anything, I like the ability to buy a car with both the comfort and features I want, along with the power and performance for the track. Sure, you can skip one to have the other, but why not get both if readily available? We'll most likely not see any more Cobra R or old style Boss cars any more, unless you buy a purpose-built one from the factory (see the 302R for 2011). People have pushed the OEMs to provide more features and better performance, but you'll never satisfy everyone, but you aim to get the most with the simplest combination.
If anything, I like the ability to buy a car with both the comfort and features I want, along with the power and performance for the track. Sure, you can skip one to have the other, but why not get both if readily available? We'll most likely not see any more Cobra R or old style Boss cars any more, unless you buy a purpose-built one from the factory (see the 302R for 2011). People have pushed the OEMs to provide more features and better performance, but you'll never satisfy everyone, but you aim to get the most with the simplest combination.
Just buy one used if you don't feel like paying any guzzler tax, original buyer eats that!
Well, as it's been said, it's only going to get more and more tech added in the future. If you want a 'dumb' car, you're gonna have to go used.
If anything, I like the ability to buy a car with both the comfort and features I want, along with the power and performance for the track. Sure, you can skip one to have the other, but why not get both if readily available? We'll most likely not see any more Cobra R or old style Boss cars any more, unless you buy a purpose-built one from the factory (see the 302R for 2011). People have pushed the OEMs to provide more features and better performance, but you'll never satisfy everyone, but you aim to get the most with the simplest combination.
If anything, I like the ability to buy a car with both the comfort and features I want, along with the power and performance for the track. Sure, you can skip one to have the other, but why not get both if readily available? We'll most likely not see any more Cobra R or old style Boss cars any more, unless you buy a purpose-built one from the factory (see the 302R for 2011). People have pushed the OEMs to provide more features and better performance, but you'll never satisfy everyone, but you aim to get the most with the simplest combination.
It won't be a issue for me, as I never leave the drive way without using at least 35% throttle. Allthough I am older, my Dad once told me you either bend in the wind or break...steering wheel controls, push button start, massive electronic's are all part of the future. I have a friend who won't go near a car with EFI. (He still has cassettes !) Believe me, 400++ HP in a choice of cars at a decent price makes this a true golden age. Let us all enjoy!
It won't be a issue for me, as I never leave the drive way without using at least 35% throttle. Allthough I am older, my Dad once told me you either bend in the wind or break...steering wheel controls, push button start, massive electronic's are all part of the future. I have a friend who won't go near a car with EFI. (He still has cassettes !) Believe me, 400++ HP in a choice of cars at a decent price makes this a true golden age. Let us all enjoy!
Thats a new on on me that I will remember for sure. Best of luck to you and be careful if you push the go pedal.
It won't be a issue for me, as I never leave the drive way without using at least 35% throttle. Allthough I am older, my Dad once told me you either bend in the wind or break...steering wheel controls, push button start, massive electronic's are all part of the future. I have a friend who won't go near a car with EFI. (He still has cassettes !) Believe me, 400++ HP in a choice of cars at a decent price makes this a true golden age. Let us all enjoy!
I still like those old carbed cars but man its hard to beat how reliable cars are today with electronics. I was always working on that old Mustang with its drum brakes all around. My Mustang is a 03 now and has 4 wheel disc brakes and they are just flat awesome imo. When I was 16 I could care less about those sorts of things. Its amazing how we change over the years.
I started out with '60's carburated cars and loved them for their simplicity. It took a long time to "buy into" technology. Bought my first new car without ABS in '95 "because I know how to brake and don't need a computer to tell me how to."
Now, I see a carb may be simple but there is no way we could get a 300 - 400 hp car as reliable or driveable without FI and an ECU.
The amount of hp every mfgr is squeezing out per cubic inch is amazing. 1 hp per CI was huge in the old days. Now it's no big deal.
While I may not understand all of the engine controls, I'll admit they sure work and people far smarter than me put them there for a reason.
Instead of wrenching, I can get in and drive.
Now, I see a carb may be simple but there is no way we could get a 300 - 400 hp car as reliable or driveable without FI and an ECU.
The amount of hp every mfgr is squeezing out per cubic inch is amazing. 1 hp per CI was huge in the old days. Now it's no big deal.
While I may not understand all of the engine controls, I'll admit they sure work and people far smarter than me put them there for a reason.
Instead of wrenching, I can get in and drive.
Again, I've said, since it's really a mystery, wait until the official specs come out. No need to worry so much on a minor detail so early in the game.
Well, my first Mustang was a brand new 1969 Mach 1 428 Cobra Jet with no power steering!!. It took all my 140 lbs to turn away from th curb when I picked the car up. I loved that car. Sold it 3 years later with 30k miles like new for $1300........
Buahahahaha, can someone tell me what Article of the constitution deals with auto sales and gasoline taxes??



