2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

5.0 is Back: 2011 GT Leads Class With 412 HP, Fuel Efficiency, Chassis Dynamics

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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A skipshift is a a solenoid that can be defeated. Don't stress it.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Yes according to the article on the other thread unfortunately it does. It seems every time they come up with something good they only screw it up by doing something else to it.

1. Body lines recently changed, but for the worst.

2. Better engine but lousy trans mandate.

3. More horsepower but with a plastic intake manifold.

What else is next ... ???
1. The appearance of the 2010+ Mustangs is a matter of personal preference. A lot of us like it as well or better than the 2005-09 Mustang body

2. As many people have said already here and elsewhere, the skip-shift is easily defeatable, and is a non-issue

3. Plastic intake manifolds when done right (and Ford has been doing them right for a few years now) save weight and help prevent heat-soak. I'm glad it has a plastic intake manifold
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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I know its not the old 5.0L. Yes it is completely different and should be way better in my opinion. I love it
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Plastic intake may not look better than an amuminum one, but doesn't heat soak very much in comparison.

I agree that with heavy boost or nitrous the plastic one is not too good.

on the plus side, there will probably be an aftermarket manifold out sooner or later.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Yes according to the article on the other thread unfortunately it does. It seems every time they come up with something good they only screw it up by doing something else to it.

1. Body lines recently changed, but for the worst.
Your opinion. I think everything except the rear looks dynamite, and the rear I don't find offensive merely less well done.
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2. Better engine but lousy trans mandate.
Everything I've seen says MT82 will to be a great transmission. If you drive with a heavy right foot (taking a wild guess you probably do) you won't even activate skip shift most of the time.
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3. More horsepower but with a plastic intake manifold.
Yeah, I mean why would you want Ford to use something that both lowers the overall weight of the engine AND lowers the center of gravity for better handling characteristics? That's just nuts.
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What else is next ... ???
If we're very lucky, more of this. There's rumors of this engine topping 480 on the dyno with a more aggressive tune. If they add turbos or the Bobcat version of EcoBoost down the road, oh ****.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by eci
A skipshift is a a solenoid that can be defeated. Don't stress it.
Just curious -- just because I don't know -- but does your GT500 feature this "skip shift?"
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Just for some perspective, the CTS-V. G8. etc. skip shift can be eliminated for under $50. If that's holding you back, please, go buy another vehicle.

http://www.afterthoughtsauto.com/ctsv-skip-shift.html

For $7:

http://jalopnik.com/5252686/how-to-d...or-seven-bucks
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Forgive the stupid question but what is Skip Shift?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Just for some perspective, the CTS-V. G8. etc. skip shift can be eliminated for under $50. If that's holding you back, please, go buy another vehicle.

http://www.afterthoughtsauto.com/ctsv-skip-shift.html

For $7:

http://jalopnik.com/5252686/how-to-d...or-seven-bucks

Thanks for the information but to be honest I'd rather pay the un-Constitutional GG Tax than entertain that nonsense when I'm spending $30-K + on a new car. Just not worth it, IMO.

As far as "buying another vehicle" goes, I haven't bought one of the others neither.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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I have owned Mustangs for 40 years and I have no idea what "Skip Shift" is....
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cocojoe53
I have owned Mustangs for 40 years and I have no idea what "Skip Shift" is....
From Jalopnik:

"Skip shift" comes into play when:

* you're in 1st gear (of course)
* you're at 35% throttle or less
* you're between 15 and 21 mph
* engine coolant temperature is greater than 171 F (77 C)
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Thanks for the information but to be honest I'd rather pay the un-Constitutional GG Tax than entertain that nonsense when I'm spending $30-K + on a new car. Just not worth it, IMO.

As far as "buying another vehicle" goes, I haven't bought one of the others neither.
Your rationale makes no sense whatsoever. You'd rather shell out over $1000 in most cases for a GG tax, instead of buying a part to rectify a situation? C'mon man, let's get serious. Do you plan on keeping the car totally stock? I wouldn't be surprised if FRPP offers the delete down the road. Besides, until the OFFICIAL order banks and detailed specs come out, I still don't entirely believe it.

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I have owned Mustangs for 40 years and I have no idea what "Skip Shift" is....
It's called "Computer Aided Gear Selection" or CAGS — and it's a system which works by using a solenoid in the transmission to force the driver to shift from first to fourth when you're driving in a leisurely fashion in 1989-and-on GM vehicles using certain 6-speed transmissions. It's purpose is to improve gas mileage and avoid the "gas-guzzler" new car tax.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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I just want to know when I will be able to order a 2011. Is March (The month I have heard thrown around) the correct info?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cocojoe53
I just want to know when I will be able to order a 2011. Is March (The month I have heard thrown around) the correct info?
Order banks open 1/18/10, but production is slated to start 3/15/10 IIRC.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cocojoe53
I have owned Mustangs for 40 years and I have no idea what "Skip Shift" is....
Forces you to shift from 1st to 4th (when at low throttle--see above quoted conditions) for fuel economy purposes on GM T56/TR6060 equipped vehicles.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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I can't wait to get a 6-speed, 5.0 Mustang from the pre-owned lot at a nice depreciation "discount"
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Thanks, and we know for a fact its part of the Mustang 6 speed package?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Your rationale makes no sense whatsoever. You'd rather shell out over $1000 in most cases for a GG tax, instead of buying a part to rectify a situation? C'mon man, let's get serious.
My rationale makes all the sense in the world to the only person that really matters ... ME ... and yes I would pay the $1-K instead that way I can force FORD to live with it not being there as opposed to me having to live with something I dont want, unnecessarily drove the cost of the car up, and probably doesn't do half of what it's intended to do anyway, other than being a 100% PITA.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
My rationale makes all the sense in the world to the only person that really matters ... ME ... and yes I would pay the $1-K instead that way I can force FORD to live with it not being there as opposed to me having to live with something I dont want, unnecessarily drove the cost of the car up, and probably doesn't do half of what it's intended to do anyway, other than being a 100% PITA.
So you'd rather pay $1,000 just on the principle, rather than pay $30 with a minor inconvenience?
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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personally i would rather save the $970 for something else
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